The Northman
Kyle
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Foreign. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Movie wars podcast.
Speaker B
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Yeah.
Kyle
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I'm your host, Kyle. Of course you know Seth at Seth's house.
John Datoy
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Yeah, it is.
Kyle
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And we are so stoked to have a guest here today. One of the best working comedians, not only based out of Nashville, but he's touring all over the place.
He just got back from a plane in New Orleans today. You flew back. John Detoy, ladies and gentlemen.
John Datoy
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He did not ever get off the plane. He did nothing but stay on the plane in New Orleans.
Speaker B
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Yeah. I have a room on a Spirit Airlines bus.
Kyle
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It pulled up right here in East Nashville.
John Datoy
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Yeah.
Kyle
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And. But, yeah, man, you're the. He's the youngest world champion. Yo yo or yo yo. World champion. It's hard to say. I've never. Yo, yo.
Speaker B
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Yeah, it's a train of words.
Kyle
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And recently he's been hosting the Nateland show at Zany's here.
Speaker B
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Yeah, it's been fun.
Kyle
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Yeah, man, it's been awesome seeing your career blossom, getting a little recognition, touring.
Speaker B
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Yeah, it's. It was good. I. I'm sorry. I was in the airport. I. I was explaining these guys.
Like, my airplane was like, 6am last show was like, two hours outside of New Orleans. And I was just like, 11:30 after we ate dinner, I was like, can you just drive me to the airport?
There's a lot of people who just hang out at the airport, like, for early flights.
Kyle
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Yeah.
Speaker B
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Like, it's mainly sad people, I've learned.
Kyle
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Yeah. But the airport is a weird place when nothing is open.
John Datoy
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Oh, yeah. It's like Walmart used to be at 2am like, it's kind of the Wild west, but also a little bit of the greatest time ever.
Speaker B
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Oh, 100%. And you guys. Have you guys ever had king cake, too?
John Datoy
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Yeah, I actually have not. That is one of the few things I haven't had from New Orleans.
Speaker B
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Yeah, it's. So that was a. It was everywhere. I thought it was a box of dozen donuts, and they're like, no, it's one cake. Like, who Blink, Blink. Do you just.
You just put it in your backpack and, like, I don't know, you could.
John Datoy
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Eat, but, I mean, it looks like a donut, so you could just say you had one donut.
Speaker B
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Exactly.
John Datoy
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Yeah.
Kyle
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Yeah.
Speaker B
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And it's Mardi Gras next week, too, or whatever, so.
Kyle
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Yeah. You have a special as well, right? Is it out yet? I can't remember.
Speaker B
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It should be out hopefully this spring. Yeah, it's going to be called Mookie's Kung Fu Cowboy. It's My mom. It's. Yeah. It was produced by Honest Fox Productions out of Atlanta, Georgia.
John Datoy
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Nice.
Kyle
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Cool. I know. I think they produced my friend Nathan's as well, I think.
Speaker B
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Yeah, yeah. Yep.
Kyle
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Nathan Owens.
Speaker B
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Yeah, Nathan Owens.
Kyle
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He's been on the show before.
Speaker B
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It's so. They're so professional. It's crazy. So just like this podcast.
Kyle
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Well, let us. Let us know the date. We'll put it out there so we can funnel people to it. But also, finally, we can.
Seth is going to endure a lot of Filipino rage today.
John Datoy
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It's true.
Kyle
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From us, too. I mean, obviously, I'm only like, an eighth or something, but it's how I got my last name. But a couple of Filipinos here, I'm.
John Datoy
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Just glad I'm not even a little Spanish.
Kyle
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Not even.
John Datoy
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Not.
Speaker B
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Yeah. We've been really planning our country coup.
Kyle
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Any conquistadors in here would be a blood bath.
Speaker B
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Yeah.
Kyle
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Yeah. I'm a passive Filipino, though, so I'm.
Speaker B
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Pretty sure there's a sword behind us, too, right? Isn't there? Yeah, that's awesome. There we go.
Kyle
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He's got weapons.
John Datoy
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He's got a dagger there. Swords are in the bedroom.
Kyle
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He's got weapons planted all throughout this house. I was listening to a song in his room, and I was like, there's a sword on the wall.
John Datoy
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There's three swords on the wall.
Kyle
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Oh, my God. They look real. Are those real?
John Datoy
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They're real swords.
Kyle
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Oh, my God.
Speaker B
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Cases.
John Datoy
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No, they're just hanging on the wall.
Kyle
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Oh, they're just.
Speaker B
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Yeah, I'm just looking at the day.
John Datoy
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No, that's just. You know, that. That. That's definitely fake. That one is not even sharp.
Kyle
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Unsheathed.
John Datoy
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Yeah.
Kyle
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Yeah. Well, we are covering a movie I have been dying to cover for a long time today.
John Datoy
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Same here, actually.
Kyle
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The Northman.
John Datoy
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Yeah. If this hadn't been on your list, it would have been on mine.
Speaker B
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Yeah.
John Datoy
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Like, that's how much I love this movie.
Kyle
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Maybe the most interesting movie in Edgar's catalog. And there's a lot of reasons for that, because we've. We've covered Covid movies before. Movies that were produced or came out during COVID Yep.
And I'm not usually, like, an evangelist to go see a movie or whatever, but, like, a lot of Edgar's fans were like, go see it. Don't let it flop. And it flopped. It flopped by a little bit. It wasn't a lot, but. And it wasn't Edgar's fault.
Although this movie did come out to a little bit of people did detest it a Little bit. Because a lot of people wanted to come out and see an epic.
John Datoy
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Yeah.
Kyle
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And in their mind, an epic would have been a gladiator.
John Datoy
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Yeah.
Kyle
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Braveheart. Two really great movies.
John Datoy
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Yeah.
Kyle
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Not this movie.
John Datoy
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Well, this was sort of marketed as John Wick with axes.
Kyle
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And then.
John Datoy
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And then as. As much as, you know, I would have loved that personally.
I went in because I think the week before the movie came out, I read that it was based on the Norse folk tale that inspired Shakespeare to write Hamlet. And that's when I knew, oh, this might have some cool action in it, but this is going to be a drama.
Kyle
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It's going to be a deep cut.
John Datoy
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Yeah. This is not going to be the John Wick running around with axes that I thought it was going to be.
Speaker B
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Stabbing people with pencils.
John Datoy
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And now I will say as far as like, I still think you can call this an epic because A, he goes on a full out journey throughout the whole thing, but B, they had a lava duel that rivaled Revenge of the Sith in my opinion. You can hate and I. There's a lot to hate about the Star wars prequels, but that, that duel in.
In the lava in the volcano is one of the greatest things that's ever come out of Star Wars. This every bit is good, if not even a little better, in my opinion.
Speaker B
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Yeah. Well, it was just so true to Norse folk tale.
John Datoy
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Yeah.
Speaker B
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It really followed everything. I mean, granted, like Olga the. In the books, I'm pretty sure Ogo's like actually a guy.
And then like, I don't know, I was like doing research on this.
Kyle
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Yeah.
Speaker B
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Like, and then like, I don't know. That's why the Shakespeare influence came into that. So.
John Datoy
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Yeah.
Kyle
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They even had a call out to Mimir with Defoe's head that was supposed to be a shout out, like back to Mamir.
Speaker B
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Yeah.
John Datoy
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Oh, that's cool.
Kyle
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Yeah. Which I knew mostly of through the God of war games, but I didn't know this in the actual folklore, the way that. That. That Odin kept Mimir.
So Eggers talks about all this on the commentary.
John Datoy
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Yeah.
Kyle
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It is deeply historically accurate, you know, and I guess herbs. Odin kept Mimir's head alive with herbs and just kept his head alive to tell him things and wisdom and stuff. That would be a horrible way to live.
You're just a head s. Like, I.
Speaker B
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Forgot to feed my head.
Kyle
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Yeah. It's like, damn it, get the bay leaves. Why aren't there any bay leafs? Under. Under Mir's.
John Datoy
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Trail him with some parsley.
Speaker B
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Some parsley.
Kyle
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These are the wisdom parsley.
Speaker B
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Don't mix wheat with that. That will make him expire.
John Datoy
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He's gluten intolerant.
Kyle
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I personally, and I, I, I agree with what you're saying. I think it's an epic in the purest sense.
John Datoy
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Yes.
Kyle
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It is so historical. And the thing is, is I love Braveheart and Gladiator, but there is so much sens. Sensationalization.
John Datoy
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Oh, absolutely.
Kyle
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Romanization of those stories. They're good stories, but it makes, Makes them really good. That is not Edgar.
John Datoy
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Yeah. No, no, no, no, no.
Kyle
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So I can see if you're an innocent bystander. And, and actually, this kind of leads to the next part of. What I wanted to talk about was Eggers is one of our newest Autours.
You know, he has entered that classification. He's probably the newest Autour since. No, I would say I'm trying to think of someone else who's established themselves.
John Datoy
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Denny. Villain view.
Kyle
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Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's a good one. And I think Edgar's. But the thing is, is that he's an auteur, but he's not widely accepted.
John Datoy
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And that he's only put out four movies at this point.
Kyle
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Correct.
Speaker B
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Yeah.
Kyle
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And he's so hell bent on historical accuracy that it does turn off a lot of people. So I could see how a lot of people would come thinking they're getting a Gladiator Braveheart experience and going, what is happening?
John Datoy
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Well, especially after seeing the previews.
Kyle
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Yeah.
John Datoy
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Like I said, the preview is definitely marketed as this, like, just a rampage running around, murdering people left and right. So I could see how if you didn't look at anything other than the previews, you'd be very confused.
Speaker B
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Yeah. It's kind of like. This is sad, but, like, I thought, like, the biopic Harriet was going to be like Django Unchained because of the trailer. Yeah.
And then I got, like, high and I'm like, this is nothing like singing. Why are they singing?
Kyle
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We could do a whole podcast on misleading trailers.
John Datoy
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Seriously.
Kyle
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Oh, my God.
John Datoy
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Add that to the list with the director actors.
Kyle
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Yes.
John Datoy
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Yeah.
Kyle
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I mean, you look at how Jack Skarsgard is like, oh, he's gonna jack some people up. He Jacks up like 12 people.
John Datoy
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Yeah.
Kyle
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You know, it's like, you know, granted.
John Datoy
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That that whole sequence where he's trying to get Anya, Taylor, Joy out of the way, so he runs in and just starts brutalizing people back in the cam. It's so good.
Kyle
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It is wild.
John Datoy
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Oh, my God.
Kyle
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Yeah. And. But you know, the thing is, is I was trying to ask myself Was like, how is Edgar's amassed in. In so few films?
He's amassed a very loyal following. I think even though it's divisive, there are people that are just going to be turned off.
Like, there's a lot of people that say the Witch is the best horror movie ever made. And there's a lot of other people who think it's way too accurate. Nothing happens. That was the movie and I love it.
And, and that kind of defines my whole film journey.
John Datoy
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Yeah.
Kyle
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Is that discovering, like, do you remember being young and watching the credits and thinking, oh my God, that guy directed this too. How could a guy direct two movies?
John Datoy
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Once I discovered IMDb, yes. That's when everything was lost. I just started looking. I was like, oh my God.
Kyle
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Because it's all connected well for me because I'm old. This is pre Internet. So all I had was the credits.
John Datoy
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Yeah.
Kyle
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And even when Internet came out, my family was too poor to have Internet and we lived way out too far in the redneck woods of Arkansas. But I remember watching Goodfellas, falling in love with it. And then Casino came on. It said Scorsese. I was like, how could he do this too?
John Datoy
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He got De Niro in two movies.
Speaker B
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Oh my God.
Kyle
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And, and, but that's how my love of film starts is like you, you find a director, you like their style. Then I'm like, I gotta find their whole oeuvre. I gotta find everything. And that was Eggers for me. I watched the Witch and then it.
To watch the Lighthouse.
Speaker B
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Yep.
Kyle
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But I think the way that he has amassed such a following is that you know exactly what you're getting. You're getting historical accuracy. You know what he's going to deliver.
Speaker B
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Yeah.
Kyle
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And, and his fans just trust him in a way that not a lot of other directors can, can gather. I don't know. What do you two think?
John Datoy
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No, I completely agree with that. He, he. That's the thing is like when the Northman came out, he'd only put out the Witch and the Lighthouse.
So even if you were familiar with what he had done, it was. Those are polar opposite movies.
Kyle
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Yes.
John Datoy
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It's going to be very difficult to figure out what this next one could be. Once they announced Nosferatu, it was pretty clear to me how. And it's not even a pattern.
It's just his tone goes for a movie that it is going to be a slow burn. And that's just something you have to expect from Robert Eggers. But it's, it's so well done that I just I don't.
Like you said, I don't see this many young directors putting out four minimum eight movies. Like, like, they. They all would hit at least like an 8.0 for me on. On a rating scale. Like, every single one of them is fantastic.
Speaker B
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Well, especially, like going like, from like black and white with the lighthouse to this to like, I haven't seen Nosferatu, but it looks like a totally different direction.
John Datoy
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Like, honestly, it's very dramatic with the color schemes.
Speaker B
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It is. Okay. Okay. So was it nominated for anything this last year?
John Datoy
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I was nominated for 4.4oscars.
Kyle
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The bullshit ones.
John Datoy
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Yeah. I can't remember which one.
Kyle
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Visual sound.
John Datoy
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Yeah. Not like direct.
Speaker B
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Yeah.
Kyle
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The stuff they give people they don't like.
Speaker B
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Yeah, yeah.
Kyle
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Like George Miller. Those are the George Miller ones.
John Datoy
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Yeah. It's like the Christopher Nolan ones before Oppenheimer.
Kyle
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That's him saying, we can't admit it's a good movie, so we're going to give you these shitty awards. Yeah, sorry, go ahead.
Speaker B
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No, I agree with you 100% and that. But it's. You know, they still, like, those same companies will put like, Oscar winning.
I also think that, like, the trailer, they had to make it the way they did with this one because, like, just of the unique cast they have with this. I mean, with Skarsgard and Anya, like, just knowing their. I don't know, the Ethan Hawke and. Yeah.
John Datoy
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Defoe, like Anne Bjork, like, and the.
Speaker B
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Rest was the one that was surprised.
Kyle
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She's amazing. So I have a great rando for that, by the way. But the rest of the actors, when you look at it, these are. These are Scandinavian actors.
They're from Denmark. They're from Iceland. Like, they're. Every last name on here is of that descent. So he went out and got people that at least have that descendant.
Nature.
Speaker B
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Yeah. You don't have the rock playing.
Kyle
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Oh, my God.
Speaker B
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I don't know you.
Kyle
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Imagine the rock in Willem Dafoe's Row.
John Datoy
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Yeah.
Speaker B
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Imagine the rock in the lighthouse.
Kyle
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Were you jacking off in the lighthouse again?
Speaker B
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Giving that monologue of the shanty. What the.
Kyle
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Was that a mermaid? Oh, the rock of my biceps.
Speaker B
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Yeah. I forget sometimes he's an actor.
I know this is deviating, but, like, with that whole announcement and challenging Cody Rhodes, it took him 20 minutes to be like, you want to fight?
Kyle
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Yeah. He can't help but go back to wrestling randomly, like in between making millions of dollars in movies.
And then he, like, says something really political. He's like, I'm gonna wrestle again.
Speaker B
00:12:26.282 - 00:12:29.660
Yeah, that's his backup plan.
Kyle
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That's his fallout from saying, pissing off both political sides. Like, I better go back to wrestling. I gotta remind people of my origin.
Speaker B
00:12:35.968 - 00:12:36.660
Yeah.
John Datoy
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Meanwhile, I'm not smart.
Speaker B
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Meanwhile, you got the Skarsgard family that's like, oh, crap, the rocks here.
Kyle
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Three of the best actors we have alive today.
Speaker B
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Like, oh, my God, four.
Kyle
00:12:49.848 - 00:12:51.424
Oh, yeah. There's three sons.
John Datoy
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Like, all four of them do crazy good shit. God.
Kyle
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Yeah. You may have a friend that can't stop pillaging. They can't stop going coast to coast in a. In a boat. And they need this podcast.
John Datoy
00:13:03.326 - 00:13:05.086
But they're not pirates. Because they're from the north.
Kyle
00:13:05.158 - 00:13:07.118
Yes. They are from the north. They are Norse.
John Datoy
00:13:07.214 - 00:13:07.534
Yes.
Kyle
00:13:07.582 - 00:13:24.590
And they need this podcast. They're. They're not friendly to women or children. They will burn them inside of a house. And by the way, the hay we're gonna have.
Let's have a question about that. But there's. There's gonna be hay for a roof that's not gonna be wood. The most flammable material available at the time. Hey, let's make that a roof.
When we know the Vikings are running around burning down.
Speaker B
00:13:24.630 - 00:13:25.804
But it's okay because it's cold.
John Datoy
00:13:25.862 - 00:13:26.256
Cold. Yeah.
Kyle
00:13:26.288 - 00:13:26.960
It's cold.
John Datoy
00:13:27.040 - 00:13:27.584
Yes.
Kyle
00:13:27.712 - 00:13:36.320
And it's. It's. Yes, exactly. So anyway, you may have a friend that can't stop pillaging. Send it to this, because it's not going to turn out well for them.
There's a volcano and they're gonna die.
John Datoy
00:13:36.400 - 00:13:36.928
Yeah.
Kyle
00:13:37.024 - 00:13:39.504
So they need this podcast. Send it to your friends. We love y'all.
Speaker B
00:13:39.552 - 00:13:40.368
And they're naked.
Kyle
00:13:40.464 - 00:13:42.112
And. And they're absolutely naked.
John Datoy
00:13:42.176 - 00:13:43.744
There's a lot of butts in this movie.
Kyle
00:13:43.872 - 00:13:50.100
A lot of. A lot of butts. That should have been the subtitle of this movie. The Northman. A lot of butts.
Speaker B
00:13:50.840 - 00:13:52.100
And Anya.
Kyle
00:13:54.120 - 00:14:12.620
Oh, my God. And I just got done doing Furiosa with Matthew Blev. There's so much Anya right now. She hated making both of these movies. Both these movies.
I didn't put in my randoms. But one thing that they have in common is that she complained about filming them both. It's just like, really? I was out. I don't know.
Because they were both really hard. Because she literally was in the mud in Iceland. It was cold.
John Datoy
00:14:12.700 - 00:14:13.244
I mean. Yeah.
Kyle
00:14:13.292 - 00:14:20.960
And then in, you know, George Miller, she. He drags him out to the desert for two years. They literally can't go anywhere else. Even if they try to escape, they're gonna die in the desert.
Speaker B
00:14:21.620 - 00:14:23.180
I'm living the movie.
John Datoy
00:14:23.340 - 00:14:24.480
Exactly.
Kyle
00:14:25.150 - 00:14:26.214
The Questions.
John Datoy
00:14:26.262 - 00:14:28.262
The questions is this.
Kyle
00:14:28.366 - 00:14:37.878
Is this kind of like what it's going to divulge to if satellites and technology just died today? Is this, like, how long before we get to the Northman, where we're just pillaging and revenge is the only hobby we have?
John Datoy
00:14:37.934 - 00:14:39.174
I give it 10 years.
Speaker B
00:14:39.342 - 00:14:41.654
I mean, Seth's preparing. He's got a fair amount of swords.
John Datoy
00:14:41.702 - 00:14:44.246
Yeah, no, that's. That's literally the plan.
Speaker B
00:14:44.318 - 00:14:48.250
Yeah. So we will. We have one for everybody.
Kyle
00:14:48.590 - 00:14:49.014
Yeah.
Speaker B
00:14:49.062 - 00:14:52.956
If you'd like to send a gift or a sword to Seth, send us to the P.O. box.
Kyle
00:14:52.988 - 00:14:58.284
Yes. Yeah. And don't even sheath it. Just, like, you know, by the time it gets here, it's just poking out of the box.
John Datoy
00:14:58.332 - 00:15:00.188
I mean, most of them don't come sheathed, so.
Kyle
00:15:00.244 - 00:15:04.160
Oh, wow. Killed, like, four postmen on the way here just by handling the box.
Speaker B
00:15:04.820 - 00:15:06.640
It's just encased in a rock.
John Datoy
00:15:07.060 - 00:15:09.100
That would make Halfway to Jesus right now.
Kyle
00:15:09.140 - 00:15:10.480
That would make us liable.
Speaker B
00:15:10.900 - 00:15:11.564
Oh, yeah.
Kyle
00:15:11.612 - 00:15:13.200
Telling everybody to send swords.
John Datoy
00:15:13.700 - 00:15:14.924
Send me all the swords.
Kyle
00:15:14.972 - 00:15:22.982
Movie wars has killed 15 postmen. Yeah. Second question. Going back to what I said earlier, I know this is a primitive society.
John Datoy
00:15:23.046 - 00:15:23.334
Yeah.
Kyle
00:15:23.382 - 00:15:33.382
But seriously, with the hay roofs, like, how much pillaging has to happen before? Like, maybe we need a new material. They keep burning these things down in seconds.
John Datoy
00:15:33.446 - 00:15:38.982
I mean, the only other thing they could try to use is stones, but I don't think they really had, like, a mortar system at that point.
Speaker B
00:15:39.006 - 00:15:39.462
Yeah.
John Datoy
00:15:39.526 - 00:15:43.272
Like, it was just. We'll try to stack them, but, I don't know, we could get the roof.
Speaker B
00:15:43.406 - 00:15:50.452
Yeah, well, the slaves were. You can't divide slaves. They gotta do one thing. You can't just do two things.
John Datoy
00:15:50.476 - 00:15:53.620
Yeah. Like, you know, and they're not Romans. They don't have concrete.
Speaker B
00:15:53.700 - 00:15:54.452
They're Christians.
John Datoy
00:15:54.516 - 00:15:54.804
Yeah.
Speaker B
00:15:54.852 - 00:15:56.640
They're just like, oh, man.
Kyle
00:15:56.940 - 00:15:57.316
Yeah.
Speaker B
00:15:57.348 - 00:15:59.140
I don't know what to do with this stone. Jesus.
Kyle
00:15:59.220 - 00:15:59.988
Jesus got me.
John Datoy
00:16:00.044 - 00:16:00.276
Yeah.
Speaker B
00:16:00.308 - 00:16:00.468
Yeah.
Kyle
00:16:00.484 - 00:16:01.492
So we'll just make a hay roof.
John Datoy
00:16:01.556 - 00:16:04.020
Christians are known for a love of hay.
Kyle
00:16:04.100 - 00:16:04.436
Yeah.
John Datoy
00:16:04.468 - 00:16:05.892
Because Jesus was born in hay.
Kyle
00:16:05.956 - 00:16:06.292
That's right.
Speaker B
00:16:06.316 - 00:16:06.756
Yeah.
John Datoy
00:16:06.868 - 00:16:08.532
So they have to use it for the roofs.
Kyle
00:16:08.596 - 00:16:08.884
Yeah.
Speaker B
00:16:08.932 - 00:16:10.300
Yeah. Christian.
Kyle
00:16:11.600 - 00:16:17.800
And this didn't become clear to me until I'm watching. And I'm watching the thing burn. I'm like, that thing's gonna burn down in four seconds. It's like lighting a Christmas tree on fire.
John Datoy
00:16:17.840 - 00:16:18.056
Yeah.
Kyle
00:16:18.088 - 00:16:20.140
It's like making your roof Christmas trees.
John Datoy
00:16:21.040 - 00:16:21.560
I mean.
Speaker B
00:16:21.600 - 00:16:21.816
Yeah.
John Datoy
00:16:21.848 - 00:16:23.320
That's just. That's how they did it. Like.
Kyle
00:16:23.360 - 00:16:23.672
Yeah.
John Datoy
00:16:23.736 - 00:16:27.112
As. As we said earlier, it's. It's crazy how historically accurate All.
Kyle
00:16:27.136 - 00:16:30.616
Yeah, maybe better not to have a roof, honestly. Yeah, Yeah.
John Datoy
00:16:30.648 - 00:16:32.440
I mean, you say that, then it starts snowing.
Kyle
00:16:32.520 - 00:16:33.176
Yeah, it's true.
John Datoy
00:16:33.208 - 00:16:36.860
And you're like, oh, you know, we could set this roof on fire and then be warm.
Speaker B
00:16:37.340 - 00:16:42.468
One thing I don't get is making love in the woods. Not that that's like. That's another thing I didn't understand.
John Datoy
00:16:42.604 - 00:16:47.876
That was before ticks developed that. That disease so that we can't eat red meat if you get bit.
Kyle
00:16:47.948 - 00:16:49.028
I had that for three years.
John Datoy
00:16:49.084 - 00:16:50.440
Oh, shit, that's terrible.
Kyle
00:16:50.780 - 00:16:51.540
Got rid of it. But.
Speaker B
00:16:51.580 - 00:16:57.560
Yeah, that answers your question, though. They're like, hey, we just need something over us. We're making love in the woods.
Kyle
00:16:58.140 - 00:17:23.360
Well, I will say one thing, and this is how much of a nerd Eggers is, but he was like talking about. There's a scene with the snake, you know, with the. With the he witch. He's like, there are no native snakes to Iceland. There are no snakes.
So it's like he. It's like they're. It's not Australia now in Australia, they're everywhere. Definitely don't make love in the woods. I'm just saying if.
If the woods love making is your thing, there probably is a stack rank of countries. I would say we're probably not a good country for it, but Iceland, Greenland.
John Datoy
00:17:23.440 - 00:17:23.696
Yeah.
Kyle
00:17:23.728 - 00:17:27.584
Some of the scandal. Yeah. Probably a few good places out there. But you're right, it's not my bag.
John Datoy
00:17:27.632 - 00:17:28.592
Thanks, Patrick.
Speaker B
00:17:28.656 - 00:17:31.900
That'd be funny if they imported a snake to Iceland. Be like, why?
John Datoy
00:17:32.760 - 00:17:38.978
Yeah, it's like Iceland turns into just a gigantic Florida. People just bring the most exotic animals there and let them loose.
Kyle
00:17:39.064 - 00:17:40.510
The snake capital of the world.
John Datoy
00:17:40.630 - 00:17:41.550
God, it's fucking great.
Speaker B
00:17:41.590 - 00:17:43.610
It's like the opposite of what St. Patrick did.
Kyle
00:17:45.190 - 00:17:46.030
It's amazing.
John Datoy
00:17:46.110 - 00:17:56.030
I think you can't even be that nerd that owns, like snakes in Ireland. Like, they're just completely illegal. I don't even know. I didn't go to the zoo when I was there, but I don't even know if they have them at the zoo.
Kyle
00:17:56.110 - 00:17:57.198
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B
00:17:57.294 - 00:17:59.150
Just a guy in one of those tube things.
John Datoy
00:17:59.270 - 00:18:03.170
Like, I'm a snake. I'm a snake.
Kyle
00:18:04.150 - 00:18:33.066
This is going to sound really dark and I have a bit about this, so maybe that makes it better. But I hate snakes because I had an aunt growing. My aunt lived in El Paso and she's. She went to prison.
She stole my grandmother's cancer medication and tried to sell it on the street like it was OxyContin and she had a sh. She had A shack like that had 20 snakes in the back. And she used to go out there and just like talk to them. I'm like, snakes are not good business.
Like, if you have a bunch of snakes, you're going to steal your dying grandmother's cancer medication and sell it.
John Datoy
00:18:33.138 - 00:18:40.590
I think the limit is two. Like, they need a friend like that, but that's the limit. Like, if you're going to own them and not be creepy, you can only have two.
Speaker B
00:18:40.690 - 00:18:48.182
Well, it's like, you know, like ball pythons. You can get a Petco for like. Yeah, those things are like. They can get like 5ft long. The females.
John Datoy
00:18:48.246 - 00:18:48.582
Yeah.
Speaker B
00:18:48.646 - 00:19:00.170
Because my sister in law has like two of them. But like, yeah, the people who are like, I own an African gaboon viper. And like, that's the most dangerous animal on the planet. He's sweet.
John Datoy
00:19:00.510 - 00:19:01.734
Six black widows.
Speaker B
00:19:01.782 - 00:19:03.446
He looks like a Lego Roblox.
Kyle
00:19:03.558 - 00:19:09.222
Yeah. That's not adrenaline either. You know, you have adrenaline junkies who like love doing crazy shit like jumping out of planes.
John Datoy
00:19:09.286 - 00:19:10.018
You have people like.
Kyle
00:19:10.094 - 00:19:20.970
Yeah. And then you have people like me that don't want to walk outside.
And then you got the insect and snake people that like really don't want to walk outside. Yeah. And they love handling vile animals. That's not. What is that.
Speaker B
00:19:21.010 - 00:19:23.082
Yeah, they want to bring the outside inside.
Kyle
00:19:23.146 - 00:19:26.346
Yeah, that's my tiger house.
John Datoy
00:19:26.418 - 00:19:32.010
Yeah, we need. We need. Instead of Tiger King Season 3, we need snake Queen.
Kyle
00:19:32.090 - 00:19:32.442
Yeah.
John Datoy
00:19:32.506 - 00:19:34.890
I need to see some crazy shit about someone who has snakes.
Kyle
00:19:34.970 - 00:19:36.362
My aunt live from prison.
John Datoy
00:19:36.426 - 00:19:40.870
Yeah. How snakes makes you sell OxyContin on the street.
Kyle
00:19:42.430 - 00:19:43.526
Rando.
John Datoy
00:19:43.638 - 00:19:44.614
Randos.
Kyle
00:19:44.742 - 00:19:52.630
Oh, I'm gonna kick it off with my favorite. So this. There's a lot of stuff here about Bjork. This was a big deal for Bjork. This was her first film in 22 years.
Speaker B
00:19:52.750 - 00:19:53.046
Yeah.
John Datoy
00:19:53.078 - 00:19:53.494
Oh, wow.
Kyle
00:19:53.542 - 00:19:54.118
Yeah. Her other.
John Datoy
00:19:54.174 - 00:19:54.726
Been that long.
Kyle
00:19:54.798 - 00:20:25.654
Her last film was her first film, which is the Von Trier film Dancer in the Dark, where she got so many accolades. Yeah, she was incredible. I don't want to go into detail. Sexual assault from Lars Von Trier set her acting career back. She didn't want to do it again.
And she also had an amazing acting career anyway. Or amazing music career anyway. She's one of my favorite musicians. So this was a big deal to come back to film.
And the reason that it was attractive to her, she is very. She's very knowledgeable of her heritage. She is from Iceland. And also because of that, Edgar's actually gave her the opportunity.
She picked her entire wardrobe.
John Datoy
00:20:25.702 - 00:20:26.022
Nice.
Kyle
00:20:26.086 - 00:20:44.714
And she didn't just pick it because she liked it. Like, she had, like, historical, mythological reasons. Like the thing. If you notice the thing that looks like a third eye.
I can't remember what they're called, but they're stones. Yeah, they actually. The other women were also wearing them on their head, but she wanted to use the same thing.
But she wanted to look like she had a third eye to show that she was, like, of a witch nature.
Speaker B
00:20:44.842 - 00:20:45.626
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kyle
00:20:45.658 - 00:20:54.570
And the headdress. Eggers did help her. The headdress, but that was like a Scandinavian wedding. She.
I can't remember what they call it, but it's like a head thing that they would wear for weddings.
John Datoy
00:20:54.650 - 00:20:55.210
Oh, nice.
Speaker B
00:20:55.290 - 00:20:57.322
Oh, it's like the replacement of a veil.
Kyle
00:20:57.466 - 00:21:04.058
Yes. Everything on her outfit had significance, and she was heavily involved in it. And she crushes it in the short times in this.
John Datoy
00:21:04.114 - 00:21:07.374
She's fantastic. Like, that scene is so creepy in the best way possible.
Kyle
00:21:07.462 - 00:21:07.966
Yeah.
Speaker B
00:21:08.078 - 00:21:12.530
Another reason that, like, the Oscars hit and they missed.
Kyle
00:21:13.670 - 00:21:18.606
Yeah. Everybody here. And we'll get into our categories. But it's just. I love the authenticity of this film.
John Datoy
00:21:18.678 - 00:21:18.926
Yeah.
Kyle
00:21:18.958 - 00:21:52.362
And again, I trust Eggers. That's what I said earlier. It's like, when I get into the film, I know I'm at least seeing.
And the thing for him, him romanticizing this film is like, he was saying that there are parts of. Like, we don't have a lot of artifacts from this time period where the story takes place.
So the helmets, for example, are an amalgamation of the period before and after where they have physical artifacts. And it was just a reimagining of what those things combined would look like, like, the evolutional stage. So that's.
That's him romanticizing and sensationalizing this story where others would be like, what if we put a gun in this movie? You know, what if everybody has packs?
John Datoy
00:21:52.426 - 00:22:18.176
You know, it's like. See, I think it's stuff like that. There's. So I would have to say, I think objectively, the Lighthouse is his best movie. But this one's my favorite.
Yeah, this one's my favorite because as cool as the Lighthouse is and as different as the Lighthouse is, he pays so much attention to all of the fine details everywhere. Whether it's working with Bjork on her costume or whether it's stuff like that. Like, it's just. It's so much good.
Kyle
00:22:18.248 - 00:22:19.312
Did you watch the commentary?
John Datoy
00:22:19.376 - 00:22:19.600
No.
Kyle
00:22:19.640 - 00:22:22.496
Oh, I'd recommend it. Like, you're gonna. You're gonna get a history lesson.
John Datoy
00:22:22.528 - 00:22:27.504
I'm eventually gonna get the 4k. I. Yeah, I only rented it on. On digital because I was like, I'll get the 4K eventually.
Kyle
00:22:27.552 - 00:22:33.722
But yeah, now I learned so much. I'm actually now reading about Norse mythology because of how interested he made me. So.
Speaker B
00:22:33.746 - 00:22:34.090
Yeah.
Kyle
00:22:34.170 - 00:22:35.310
Thanks, Robert.
John Datoy
00:22:36.130 - 00:22:37.270
Thanks, Mom.
Kyle
00:22:37.650 - 00:22:45.770
I love talking to directors like, I know him. Yeah. I call Martin Scorsese Marty, and people, my old co host for the first version of the show, they're like, why don't you call him Marty?
John Datoy
00:22:45.850 - 00:22:47.594
Because that's what literally everybody calls him.
Kyle
00:22:47.682 - 00:22:49.350
Do you know him? I'm like, no.
Speaker B
00:22:49.730 - 00:22:51.390
It's like, run Entourage.
Kyle
00:22:52.530 - 00:23:17.196
Marty. This is an amazing fact. You're gonna love this. As a filmmaker.
This is the only film and the last film that has one line of improvised dialogue in any Eggers movie. Oh, it was. It came from what's his face. Elder Scarfin. The actor who played no Stub. The guy whose nose got off. It's when.
When Amoleth runs to the boat as a child and escapes and he's. He's talking, chanting on the boat.
John Datoy
00:23:17.228 - 00:23:17.532
Yeah.
Kyle
00:23:17.596 - 00:23:22.460
You know, that I'll avenge you. That one line that he says to the Raven was the Raven King.
Speaker B
00:23:22.540 - 00:23:22.844
Yeah.
Kyle
00:23:22.892 - 00:23:27.708
That's the only line of dialogue that's ever been kept that was improvised in an Edgar's movie ever.
John Datoy
00:23:27.764 - 00:23:29.356
Wait, what did he say specifically?
Kyle
00:23:29.468 - 00:23:35.212
It's nothing really. It's just him. Him updating the Raven King. But. And it's the way he said it apparently was not on the script.
John Datoy
00:23:35.276 - 00:23:35.564
Oh.
Kyle
00:23:35.612 - 00:23:50.784
And he improvised. But because I think because the time period correctness is so important to Eggers, like, because it's like he research.
Even the lighthouse that was based on some language, like some English medieval language that was really specific to semen.
John Datoy
00:23:50.832 - 00:23:51.104
Yeah.
Kyle
00:23:51.152 - 00:24:08.144
You know, it's like he's that intricate. Hey. But yeah, so we're seven years old on this podcast, if you didn't know. Yeah. But yeah. So I love that.
I can't believe it that there's only one improvised line of doll.
John Datoy
00:24:08.192 - 00:24:09.408
I mean, I can he.
Speaker B
00:24:09.464 - 00:24:10.144
I can. Yeah.
Kyle
00:24:10.192 - 00:24:10.608
Yeah.
John Datoy
00:24:10.704 - 00:24:51.028
So from what I hear about him, he's not like an asshole on set, like a Kubrick, but he seems to be every bit as picky and in a good way, but very picky about how things are done and said just because, like you said. I mean, he himself has said he has no interest in doing any type of modern film. Every film he's going to do is going to be a period film.
And so I could see how he would not. Not necessarily micromanage, but just understand like every detail of Everything that happened. So that. That does make sense. That is funny, though.
That was. You know, that.
That kind of makes sense because when I saw that one moment in the back of my mind, I was like, that does feel a little different than every other line that is spoken in this movie.
Kyle
00:24:51.204 - 00:24:55.236
Yeah. Imagine walking around without a nose and knowing it was just cut off.
Speaker B
00:24:55.308 - 00:24:58.120
Yeah, yeah. And be like, I'm gonna improvise.
Kyle
00:24:59.260 - 00:25:18.334
I'm making shit up. I don't got a nose. Making it up as I go here. This is a very nostril. Less line of dialogue here, Rando, in case anybody was worried. The volcano scene.
Don't worry. Even though you barely see them. Those are digital genitals. So when you do. Oh, really? Yeah. Just in case you guys were worried.
Speaker B
00:25:18.382 - 00:25:18.878
Dang it.
Kyle
00:25:18.934 - 00:25:19.678
Yeah. Yeah.
John Datoy
00:25:19.774 - 00:25:20.974
I want real.
Kyle
00:25:21.142 - 00:25:27.102
Yeah, that's not the real scars guard, if you know what I mean. Yeah, that's. That ain't the Raven King. Yeah.
Speaker B
00:25:27.166 - 00:25:33.086
So for that stuff, they usually just like, put on, like, really light nylon. Pretty much compatible to their skin, right?
Kyle
00:25:33.158 - 00:25:33.406
Yeah.
John Datoy
00:25:33.438 - 00:25:33.850
Yeah.
Speaker B
00:25:33.950 - 00:25:35.938
They're wearing, essentially, a man thong.
Kyle
00:25:36.034 - 00:25:36.578
Yeah.
John Datoy
00:25:36.674 - 00:25:51.730
I think there. There are rules about showing genitalia. Like, you could show boobs and it's fine. But I think there are very specific rules as far as ratings go.
Like, I think if you do show actual penis or actual vagina, it's immediately NC17.
Kyle
00:25:51.850 - 00:25:52.338
Yeah.
John Datoy
00:25:52.434 - 00:25:57.554
So that's. Yeah. Usually if they are going to do it, it's usually a prosthetic or digital.
Speaker B
00:25:57.722 - 00:26:03.338
And prosthetics are. I know, like, for, like. So, like, pro. So explain NC17 versus R. To me.
John Datoy
00:26:03.394 - 00:26:09.738
R literally means you can see the movie if you're over 13 and accompanied by an adult.
Speaker B
00:26:09.834 - 00:26:10.154
Yeah.
John Datoy
00:26:10.202 - 00:26:13.578
NC17 means no one under 17 is getting in.
Speaker B
00:26:13.714 - 00:26:14.154
Okay.
John Datoy
00:26:14.202 - 00:26:42.880
Like, they will check your ID. And if. If you were 16 and a half, you cannot go watch this movie in theaters.
The biggest differences as far as, like, what's on screen, there is a different level of violence that will make a movie NC17. And then certain sexual natures of nudity if it goes beyond what you would even like.
50 shades of gray really had to tone things down in order to be an R rating.
Speaker B
00:26:42.960 - 00:26:43.264
Yeah.
John Datoy
00:26:43.312 - 00:26:48.400
Then you have something like Lars Von Trier's nymphomaniac, which is NC17 to the max, because.
Speaker B
00:26:48.520 - 00:26:49.472
Yeah, you are.
John Datoy
00:26:49.496 - 00:26:55.068
Even though they're using doubles for the actual sex scenes, you are actually watching actual sex happen in some of those.
Kyle
00:26:55.124 - 00:26:57.900
And Von Trier employs porn stars. Yeah, for that.
John Datoy
00:26:57.940 - 00:26:58.204
Yeah.
Kyle
00:26:58.252 - 00:26:58.908
Because he's.
John Datoy
00:26:59.004 - 00:27:00.316
Shia LaBeouf. Had a penis.
Kyle
00:27:00.348 - 00:27:01.564
Double penis. Double.
John Datoy
00:27:01.612 - 00:27:02.124
Yeah.
Speaker B
00:27:02.252 - 00:27:11.916
How? Like, I feel like that. That would be just like kind of like backwards insulting to me and be like, it's not you, it's him.
John Datoy
00:27:11.988 - 00:27:14.636
Yeah, yeah.
Kyle
00:27:14.668 - 00:27:15.580
He's just packing.
John Datoy
00:27:15.660 - 00:27:39.238
Ramstein did a music video for one of their songs, which I will not. I just won't say the name of it, but it starts with a P. You can find it.
They filmed it in a brothel in Germany, but it involved all of the band members having sex. And so they actually ended up hiring penis doubles.
When all of the guys in the band saw the doubles come in, they were just like, oh, no, that makes sense. Yeah, yeah. Like, no, that. That. Yeah, let's do them. Not me.
Kyle
00:27:39.294 - 00:27:41.334
They put the. They put the ram in Ramstein.
John Datoy
00:27:41.382 - 00:27:42.250
Exactly.
Kyle
00:27:43.470 - 00:27:48.534
Yeah. It's amazing to hear that even the Germans have that sensibility. Fantastic work.
Speaker B
00:27:48.702 - 00:27:50.010
Good taste, guys.
Kyle
00:27:50.780 - 00:27:54.000
A lot going on with the digital genitals conversation here.
John Datoy
00:27:54.460 - 00:28:00.340
I do love the fact that in Nosferatu, Nicholas Holt got gifted the penis.
Kyle
00:28:00.420 - 00:28:01.604
I still haven't seen it.
John Datoy
00:28:01.772 - 00:28:07.572
Oh, it's great. Really. Might as well just go ahead and watch the extended version. It's four minutes longer, but, like, whatever.
Kyle
00:28:07.636 - 00:28:09.380
But I'm waiting to watch it for the pot.
John Datoy
00:28:09.500 - 00:28:20.324
There's one scene where you do see Count Orlok's penis, and it's a prosthetic, and he gifted it. Instead of to Bill Skarsgard, he gifted it to Nicholas Holt and he has it framed in his house, trying to.
Kyle
00:28:20.332 - 00:28:21.456
Imagine what that would look like.
Speaker B
00:28:21.548 - 00:28:27.260
It's small Daddy. What's that? A really good memory.
Kyle
00:28:28.160 - 00:28:45.384
That's a vampire penis. Last rando. Most of this was shot in Iceland, but because of insurance, they wouldn't let him do the whole thing.
So a lot of these scenes were parts of Ireland that mimic. So. But I don't know why. It's like you can do some of it in Iceland, but not all of it.
John Datoy
00:28:45.552 - 00:28:52.210
Yeah. I'm not 100% sure why. I. I guess is he. Is he British? Is he. Or is he Irish? Robert Eggers. Where is he from?
Kyle
00:28:52.250 - 00:28:53.410
I think he's just American.
Speaker B
00:28:53.530 - 00:28:54.210
When I hear.
John Datoy
00:28:54.330 - 00:28:55.554
I've never heard him speak, so I.
Kyle
00:28:55.562 - 00:28:59.506
Just don't know when he speaks. He's very. It sounds very. You've heard him speak. He sounds very American to me.
John Datoy
00:28:59.578 - 00:29:24.382
Okay, then. Yeah. There just must be. Whatever company he was using must have needed to have some stuff shot in Ireland, too. You never know. Insurance is weird.
You'll like. There's.
There was a Mythbusters episode where they're, like, doing an Indiana Jones thing, and they were dropping through canvases And Adam was like, ready to do it. And then immediately insurance called and was like, no, you can't. But we'll send the other guy. The other guy can do this. But you can't.
You're too expensive. So they just have the most random reasons.
Speaker B
00:29:24.446 - 00:29:29.850
I also know that like Iceland's like really protective of their nature. So like, maybe they were like, hey, you can't have all this.
John Datoy
00:29:30.870 - 00:29:34.690
No, you cannot shoot in front of an actual volcano that's erupting.
Kyle
00:29:35.430 - 00:29:36.366
Get over it.
Speaker B
00:29:36.438 - 00:29:37.758
Yeah, grow up.
John Datoy
00:29:37.894 - 00:29:43.850
Yeah, pretentious, stupid insurance ruining everything for us.
Speaker B
00:29:44.630 - 00:29:46.620
Yeah, but it was Bjork.
Kyle
00:29:48.240 - 00:29:55.560
If I'm going to do my first movie in 20 years, we're going to Ireland. Shall we pillage?
John Datoy
00:29:55.640 - 00:29:56.248
Let's do it.
Kyle
00:29:56.304 - 00:29:58.968
Shall we burn down the hay roof?
John Datoy
00:29:59.064 - 00:30:00.392
Shall we Ramstein?
Kyle
00:30:00.456 - 00:30:01.704
Shall we Ramstein?
John Datoy
00:30:01.832 - 00:30:02.820
Shall we?
Kyle
00:30:03.520 - 00:30:12.980
Let's war. All right, so for today's categories, the yes. Affirmative. Love this category. Great Berserker. Barely know her.
Speaker B
00:30:15.080 - 00:30:16.100
I'm leaving.
John Datoy
00:30:17.000 - 00:30:17.888
Thank you.
Kyle
00:30:18.024 - 00:30:22.416
Fine, I'll do them by myself. And they're all Berserkers.
John Datoy
00:30:22.448 - 00:30:23.424
Barely knowers.
Kyle
00:30:23.552 - 00:30:28.176
Even better than that. The no negative didn't dig it. Mead E Oker.
John Datoy
00:30:28.208 - 00:30:29.040
I like that one.
Speaker B
00:30:29.160 - 00:30:32.080
I do like that one too. Yeah.
John Datoy
00:30:32.160 - 00:30:33.780
Shout out. Honey Tree Meadery.
Kyle
00:30:34.280 - 00:30:35.712
Oh, is that a real, real thing?
John Datoy
00:30:35.736 - 00:30:36.528
Oh, they're right down the road.
Kyle
00:30:36.584 - 00:30:37.472
I've never had mead.
John Datoy
00:30:37.536 - 00:30:38.764
Oh, yeah, it's fantastic.
Speaker B
00:30:38.832 - 00:30:40.164
It will mess you up.
John Datoy
00:30:40.252 - 00:30:57.844
Yeah, that's the thing is like, it can go proof wise everywhere from beer to like port, so from like 4% to 20% and there's everything in between and it you would not know you're drinking alcohol at any of those proof levels. Really nuts. Yeah, I'll take you some time when you start drinking again.
Kyle
00:30:57.932 - 00:30:58.720
I'm done.
Speaker B
00:30:59.500 - 00:31:01.684
The flight is like a hobbit house. It's kind of cool.
Kyle
00:31:01.732 - 00:31:02.324
That is cool.
Speaker B
00:31:02.372 - 00:31:02.644
Yeah.
Kyle
00:31:02.692 - 00:31:06.394
I wish. I wish I still drank. I'm done. I cut it out. I can't do it anymore.
Speaker B
00:31:06.492 - 00:31:08.286
Yeah, Hormi.
Kyle
00:31:08.398 - 00:31:09.610
Okay, here we go.
John Datoy
00:31:10.310 - 00:31:12.450
I'm a need some whiskey glass.
Kyle
00:31:12.950 - 00:31:26.846
At least I've got coffee. Top bill cast. So for our top bill, our highest paid folks were Alexander Skarsgard, Nicole Kidman and Clay's bang as the Raven King.
What do you guys think?
John Datoy
00:31:26.998 - 00:31:45.714
I think they fucking killed it. Like, I think every single one of them did an incredible job.
Alexander Skarsgard is already normally kind of ripped and just got even more like jacked for this movie. Every line of dialogue he spoke, I felt like in my soul. So yeah, I give it a Berserker Barely knower.
Kyle
00:31:45.762 - 00:31:50.738
I met Fjolnir the Brotherless, by the way. Clay's being his FJ owner. I kept mixing up Ethan Hawke. Sorry.
Speaker B
00:31:50.914 - 00:31:52.130
I get that. Yeah.
Kyle
00:31:52.210 - 00:31:52.610
Yeah.
Speaker B
00:31:52.690 - 00:31:54.450
I wonder how far behind Bjork was.
Kyle
00:31:54.490 - 00:31:57.538
On that, given she's pretty far down the list.
John Datoy
00:31:57.594 - 00:32:01.562
She was barely in the movie, so I doubt she was paid anywhere near as much as the others.
Kyle
00:32:01.666 - 00:32:06.410
I'm looking. She is. She actually was, like, almost close to the bottom here.
John Datoy
00:32:06.450 - 00:32:09.274
Yeah. I mean, she was in the movie for a total of like, two minutes.
Kyle
00:32:09.322 - 00:32:13.706
Yeah, yeah, yeah. She got paid in third Eyestone things.
Speaker B
00:32:13.858 - 00:32:15.786
She got to own the volcano, that thing.
John Datoy
00:32:15.858 - 00:32:17.034
She got to keep the costumes.
Kyle
00:32:17.082 - 00:32:18.910
We'll name this after you. Mount Bjork.
Speaker B
00:32:20.930 - 00:32:23.834
She was like, finally, I have created the full circle.
Kyle
00:32:23.962 - 00:32:27.114
Her music kind of sounds sometimes like an. An erupting volcano.
John Datoy
00:32:27.162 - 00:32:27.546
Oh, yeah.
Speaker B
00:32:27.578 - 00:32:28.122
Oh, yeah.
John Datoy
00:32:28.186 - 00:32:34.022
When she's like, you could easily put army of Me in the background of the fight. That was a song.
Speaker B
00:32:34.086 - 00:32:34.518
Yeah.
John Datoy
00:32:34.614 - 00:32:35.174
So good.
Kyle
00:32:35.262 - 00:32:36.210
What do you think?
Speaker B
00:32:36.670 - 00:33:11.490
I like it. I mean, again, they all killed it. I love the dialogue when Nicole Kidman and Alexander Skarsgrd.
And he's, like, learning the truth behind her beginnings as his mother. And just like, the way they avoided how some not as talented directors would have that dialogue be written out. Be like, yeah, it was. It was good.
And the symbolism of. Of scarring was really good, too. And how they weren't just like, look at this. It was more, like subtle, like.
Like a scar or something you just like, discover.
Kyle
00:33:11.570 - 00:33:12.498
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B
00:33:12.674 - 00:33:15.906
Body language. I don't know. Overall, they all deserved it.
Kyle
00:33:15.978 - 00:33:29.530
That's. That's awesome. And that's one of two things he made up for this movie.
Like, there's literally two or three things that didn't happen during this time period. He said that there's no evidence that they actually did that to slaves, that they branded him. But he said he needed kind of a through line.
And so he said it kind of makes sense. Maybe they did this.
John Datoy
00:33:29.610 - 00:33:38.554
Maybe they did. I mean, as you said, in that particular time period, apparently there's just not much to go off of.
So it was a common thing to do to slaves around the world. So that makes sense.
Kyle
00:33:38.602 - 00:33:38.922
Yeah.
Speaker B
00:33:38.986 - 00:33:39.322
Yeah.
John Datoy
00:33:39.386 - 00:33:41.226
But you have to say it. You have to say the thing.
Kyle
00:33:41.298 - 00:33:42.298
You have to say the thing.
Speaker B
00:33:42.354 - 00:33:43.930
You have to say it. Thing. And then you have to.
John Datoy
00:33:43.970 - 00:33:45.850
Oh, no, you. You have to say the thing.
Speaker B
00:33:45.970 - 00:33:46.586
What thing?
John Datoy
00:33:46.658 - 00:33:48.110
The Berserker.
Speaker B
00:33:50.690 - 00:33:51.910
Hardly know.
Kyle
00:33:53.010 - 00:34:09.962
You don't have to say it every time. If it's not. If you don't dig it, you can Just say berserker. It's fine. And I didn't know this woman. Berserker means bear warrior. I did not know that.
That's pretty cool.
John Datoy
00:34:10.026 - 00:34:30.018
Also, in that time period, they would actually. Well, they would do two things. They would paint themselves blue and run into battle completely naked. Not even with the loincloth.
But then they would also those mushrooms that they took in in the, the, the like past the rite of passage scene. That was something that berserkers would take. They would take mushrooms rooms and just be tripping balls.
Kyle
00:34:30.114 - 00:34:30.434
Wow.
John Datoy
00:34:30.482 - 00:34:34.162
So that they had no fear and would just run and beat the out of people.
Speaker B
00:34:34.266 - 00:34:34.626
Man.
John Datoy
00:34:34.698 - 00:34:37.154
That was a whole thing. Like it's kind of crazy.
Speaker B
00:34:37.202 - 00:34:38.450
Wish I would have known that in high school.
Kyle
00:34:38.490 - 00:34:42.482
Yeah, I know, right? Yeah. I just needed that to ask someone to the dance.
John Datoy
00:34:42.546 - 00:34:42.834
Yeah.
Kyle
00:34:42.882 - 00:34:48.386
You know, not to burn down a village, but you know, just like, hey, do you want to go to the dance?
Speaker B
00:34:48.418 - 00:34:50.070
Why is Kyle talking to a wall?
Kyle
00:34:51.370 - 00:34:55.651
He's asking it to the dance. Okay. Him with his 14 zits on his nose.
John Datoy
00:34:55.715 - 00:34:57.479
Her name is Wally. Okay.
Kyle
00:34:58.219 - 00:35:12.451
Wally's a babe. I also go berserker barely nowhere. I, I trying to find something I don't like here.
But I, I'm gonna go on a limb and say this is my favorite Nicole Kidman role ever.
Speaker B
00:35:12.555 - 00:35:13.171
Yeah.
John Datoy
00:35:13.315 - 00:35:15.203
I haven't really seen a bold statement, sir.
Kyle
00:35:15.251 - 00:35:27.442
I know. I've seen a lot of her work. I, I haven't seen her play this note, man. She was, man. When at first I'm not noticing it.
Like, it's like she's just kind of in the background. But when she is telling him. You pointed this out. The history.
John Datoy
00:35:27.546 - 00:35:28.146
Yeah.
Kyle
00:35:28.258 - 00:35:41.170
Of what? And like how intentional she was about this whole thing. I was like, damn, that's, I haven't seen Nicole.
And I was very like, that was vindictive, man. Like, I was totally sold. And I mean, I think Scarsgard. I mean, I like all the scars guards.
John Datoy
00:35:41.250 - 00:35:41.666
Oh yeah.
Kyle
00:35:41.698 - 00:35:47.390
Even though Bill keeps reprising my favorite roles and ruining them. The crowd. Thank you.
John Datoy
00:35:47.430 - 00:35:48.382
That was not his fault.
Kyle
00:35:48.446 - 00:35:48.798
I know.
John Datoy
00:35:48.854 - 00:35:53.214
That was a check. Pennywise is cool, but Pennywise is great. Knows Count Orlok is insane.
Kyle
00:35:53.262 - 00:35:54.062
I can't wait to see it.
John Datoy
00:35:54.086 - 00:35:54.734
Oh my God.
Speaker B
00:35:54.782 - 00:35:55.294
Pennywise.
John Datoy
00:35:55.342 - 00:36:09.998
Here's something I will say about Nicole Kidman. I, I think this one is tied for first with two other roles for me.
Her role in Big Little Lies, which I've always described as the best filmed soap opera I've ever seen.
Kyle
00:36:10.054 - 00:36:10.526
Yeah.
John Datoy
00:36:10.638 - 00:36:22.048
Very over dramatic. But I just accept it because it's that's what it is. And she destroys that role.
But the other one I think that ties this for me is her role in Dogville.
Kyle
00:36:22.224 - 00:36:25.152
Yeah. Oh, wow. I don't know that I've seen Dogville.
Speaker B
00:36:25.216 - 00:36:26.192
I don't think so either.
John Datoy
00:36:26.256 - 00:36:28.080
It's Lars von Trier's tamest film.
Kyle
00:36:28.120 - 00:36:28.768
Oh, that's right.
John Datoy
00:36:28.824 - 00:37:10.502
And it's the one where they shot it in a soundstage. And if it's daytime, the background's nothing but white. If it's night, the background's nothing but black.
But all of the set, like, all the locations are painted in outlines on the ground. And then they have specific set pieces like a shop window, but there's a. There's no door. But everyone knows where the door is.
So they'll make the action as if they're opening the door. And then he puts sound design in so it sounds really walking on dirt or walking on wood or opening the door. She absolutely dominates in that role.
It is again. And that's the thing.
All three of these roles for me are so vastly different and unique as far as how she plays them, but they're perfect examples of her going to 110 10.
Speaker B
00:37:10.606 - 00:37:15.030
Yeah. She's just been doing so much TV lately, I forget a little bit of her filmography.
Kyle
00:37:15.110 - 00:37:15.750
Yeah.
John Datoy
00:37:15.910 - 00:37:29.158
So, yeah, the Bell Court had a whole series of her films. I saw Dog, Villain, Eyes Wide Shut there. Both insanely good roles for her.
But, yeah, I would say Dogville, Big Little Lies in this are my top three for her.
Speaker B
00:37:29.214 - 00:37:33.318
Was she Oscar nominated for Bombshell with Margot robbing on them?
John Datoy
00:37:33.374 - 00:37:34.246
I do not know.
Speaker B
00:37:34.318 - 00:37:59.584
Yeah, because, like, she was. She was pretty good in that too.
But, like, I agree, this one was because, like, the one thing I like, and I'm going back to the dialogue between her and Alexander Skarsgard is like, normally if I, like, watched a period movie and, like, the mom's coming on to literally her son, like, in the movie, I'd be like, this is kind of a weird interruption even. It might be. Even though it might be historically accurate. It's very hard to pull off. But she created this transition.
Kyle
00:37:59.712 - 00:38:00.192
Yeah.
Speaker B
00:38:00.256 - 00:38:01.360
And, yeah, it was.
Kyle
00:38:01.480 - 00:38:05.856
It seemed like the next step. Like, it just seemed natural to how she presented it.
Speaker B
00:38:05.928 - 00:38:06.416
Yeah.
Kyle
00:38:06.528 - 00:38:12.928
Yeah, Totally agree. That's a good point. I wasn't really freaked out by it. I was just more like, she's on a terror right now.
John Datoy
00:38:12.984 - 00:38:14.016
Yeah, yeah.
Kyle
00:38:14.048 - 00:38:20.016
She wants. She won't stop until, like, she's got, like, she's, like, planning, she's conniving. Like, she is the mastermind.
Speaker B
00:38:20.048 - 00:38:31.056
Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely. It's kind of like, you know, it's like the dirtiest thing I'll probably ever say. It's kind of like a scared boner, you know?
I imagine you're just like, wow, okay, Mommy.
John Datoy
00:38:31.088 - 00:38:31.616
Why?
Kyle
00:38:31.768 - 00:38:32.860
All right, Mom.
Speaker B
00:38:33.240 - 00:38:34.666
Yeah, yeah, it's weird.
John Datoy
00:38:34.698 - 00:38:44.682
That is. You know, that's something I didn't even think about. But, yeah, she is, like.
It's almost like she's attracted, in her character, at least in this movie, to, like, slightly weaker men.
Speaker B
00:38:44.866 - 00:38:45.370
Yeah.
John Datoy
00:38:45.450 - 00:39:07.034
Ethan Hawke's character. She. Obviously there was a point where she was attracted to him, otherwise, she wouldn't have, like, willingly lived in that as long as she did.
She would have probably found a way out of it. And, I mean, it did take her out of slavery, but, like, I don't know, she.
She seemed to get with men that she could manipulate in the way that she needed it.
Speaker B
00:39:07.122 - 00:39:07.658
Yeah.
Kyle
00:39:07.754 - 00:39:17.818
All he cared about was war. I mean, even when she, like, tried to get him to go to bed with her, he was like, no, I'm gonna go with my son and we're gonna go.
Like, I'm gonna take him on the path to become a warrior. Like, that's literally all he cared about.
Speaker B
00:39:17.874 - 00:39:19.930
Yeah, yeah, he was very tunnel vision.
Kyle
00:39:20.010 - 00:39:20.442
Yeah.
Speaker B
00:39:20.506 - 00:39:25.850
And, like, you know, he's the only one who didn't have that, which is hence the pillaging.
Kyle
00:39:26.010 - 00:39:39.714
The revolve. The pillaging. This is all pre iPhone. That's when it stopped whenever the computer came out. It's like, all right, let's stop it with the axes.
Speaker B
00:39:39.842 - 00:39:45.110
Yeah. Steve Jobs was just in a field. He's like, there is so much pillaging.
Kyle
00:39:45.690 - 00:39:52.690
Imagine if you could listen to Phil Collins from your pocket on demand. You would stop killing all these people and burning down their huts.
John Datoy
00:39:52.770 - 00:39:55.830
Imagine if you could listen to the Deftones.
Kyle
00:39:56.950 - 00:40:16.622
Oh, my God, that's hilarious. Oh, I'll have to send you the video so he knows what he's talking about.
One of our most viral videos is just because the comments are just lambasting me because I said the Deftones. Because it was in a moment of passion, and I love Deftones, but I said the. And now I'm the criminal of the century. Yeah, but, hey, it made us viral.
John Datoy
00:40:16.766 - 00:40:27.386
I mean, it's almost as bad as me saying that Clark Kent is the human part of Superman. He's Kryptonian. No, Kal El is Kryptonian. Clark Kent is a human being, asshole.
Kyle
00:40:27.518 - 00:40:29.090
Who cares? Zack Snyder's an idiot.
John Datoy
00:40:29.170 - 00:40:29.938
Oh, shut up.
Kyle
00:40:29.994 - 00:41:08.238
Okay, Snyder supporting cast is one sword. Yeah, yeah, you do I'm getting. I'm becoming more aware. Yeah. Of the swords one to zero. We are nearly burning this down. Supporting cast.
Ethan Hawke is King. Arvandale War. Raven. Anya, Taylor, Joy, Olga. The Birch Force. I didn't even know she had a last name. Gustav Lind is Thorir the Proud.
There's so many Elliot Roses, Gunner Willem. Dafoe is Hemir the Fool. And then there's so many more. I'm trying to get to the 1Stellen.
John Datoy
00:41:08.254 - 00:41:09.470
Scars guards in there.
Kyle
00:41:09.590 - 00:41:18.014
Stellan. Yep. And then Bjork as the C Risk. And those are the ones that kind of.
Oh, I'll go ahead and say Elder Scar as Finner, the nose dub since he had a rando.
John Datoy
00:41:18.062 - 00:41:18.334
Yeah.
Kyle
00:41:18.382 - 00:41:19.960
But. Yeah. What do you think?
John Datoy
00:41:20.080 - 00:42:13.014
I mean, once again, like, I have to go. Berserker barely know. Or like they.
There's so few times where there's no single misses on any member of the cast, be it an extra, be it a one line character, be it a recurring character. Like there is not a single misstep here.
Every single person, whatever large or little role they played on screen, every single person was convincing to me. Not a single person felt out of place. Every now and then, like there's. There's a clip going around of.
From the second Doctor Strange movie or when he's sitting in the church about to watch the wedding, there's a woman right over his shoulder, just over the top, like, oh, I'm talking to this person. And now I'm talking to this person. And it's like the moment you realize that it is so distracting. Not a single incident of this in this movie.
You're completely immersed.
Speaker B
00:42:13.062 - 00:42:14.422
It feels like an SNL sketch.
Kyle
00:42:14.486 - 00:42:15.130
Yeah.
Speaker B
00:42:15.630 - 00:42:16.310
That's funny.
John Datoy
00:42:16.390 - 00:42:18.026
So, yeah, Berserker barely know her.
Speaker B
00:42:18.158 - 00:42:19.950
Yeah, Berserker barely know her.
Kyle
00:42:21.290 - 00:42:22.898
Wellingly.
Speaker B
00:42:23.074 - 00:42:30.274
I think that like it's. It's hard too when you do period movies with kids because it has to be also a very selective process.
John Datoy
00:42:30.362 - 00:42:30.770
Yeah.
Speaker B
00:42:30.850 - 00:42:45.760
Because like in the Gladiator, you know, like the kids are just. They're just dead in right away in the movie. Yeah. But like he had to carry a little bit of weight like during the game. Like I.
I don't know how to pronounce it, but like, you know, basically Quidditch for Norse.
Kyle
00:42:46.820 - 00:42:50.320
I know it just divulged into beating each other with sticks.
John Datoy
00:42:50.660 - 00:42:52.156
That sounds like Norse games.
Kyle
00:42:52.228 - 00:42:52.812
Yeah.
John Datoy
00:42:52.956 - 00:42:54.092
They've seen rugby.
Speaker B
00:42:54.236 - 00:42:57.400
Yeah. They're just like, this is boring. How about we start killing people?
Kyle
00:42:58.260 - 00:43:02.716
That was the equivalent to like a primitive like kegger gone Wrong at a frat house.
John Datoy
00:43:02.788 - 00:43:08.268
Yeah. You know, instead of someone doing too much blow, you just beat the out of school with your head.
Speaker B
00:43:08.324 - 00:43:19.180
And then the president's like, look, he brought us, obviously, loyalty. Have any of the women at your disposal? I'm like, oh, man, I'm so glad I joined this frag. Yeah.
Kyle
00:43:20.480 - 00:43:23.384
It's amazing. We evolved with all the headbutting.
John Datoy
00:43:23.432 - 00:43:23.704
Yeah.
Kyle
00:43:23.752 - 00:43:39.032
You know, it's like, you just think that would have been a delay. Like our strongest, most dominant men, you know, that. That wage these wars in history utilizing the headbutt. Like, yes, they're.
They're conquering and pillaging, but at the same time, they're killing so many brain cells. I mean, it's just like, how did.
John Datoy
00:43:39.056 - 00:43:41.222
We advance the mushrooms? They reap, replenished them.
Kyle
00:43:41.246 - 00:43:41.750
It's true.
Speaker B
00:43:41.830 - 00:43:47.846
Yeah. Yeah. Or they just, you know, we didn't have X rays back then. It's not real.
John Datoy
00:43:47.918 - 00:43:50.130
CTE wasn't a thing back then.
Kyle
00:43:50.510 - 00:43:52.598
Life expectancy of 26 and a half.
John Datoy
00:43:52.654 - 00:43:53.290
Yeah.
Kyle
00:43:55.710 - 00:44:36.556
I also go berserker. Barely knower. I struggled a little bit. And this is really more situational. And that's because of the podcast. Like, I.
In the same week I had to do, I did Furiosa up with Matthew Blevins, and then I was doing all the research on this at the same time. And so I'm seeing Anya barely talk and then her talking a lot here.
And I'm watching all these Furiosa interviews with her British accent, and I'm having a hard time, like, keeping it straight in my mind because I've watched so much Anya in the past two weeks. But sometimes maybe it's a hesitation. I'm just. But I'm like, does she go out of accent a little bit periodically in this movie?
I feel like her accent is not consistent in the north metal.
John Datoy
00:44:36.698 - 00:44:37.832
I didn't. I didn't notice.
Kyle
00:44:37.896 - 00:44:41.060
There are moments where I'm like, you went British there.
John Datoy
00:44:41.520 - 00:44:49.544
I mean, that's the thing though, is, is there are parts of British that are very influenced by the Norse action. Like, because you did have that whole time period.
Kyle
00:44:49.632 - 00:44:49.896
Yeah.
John Datoy
00:44:49.928 - 00:44:55.540
Where the Norse came and completely sacked all of England. Like they. They owned England for the longest time.
Kyle
00:44:55.920 - 00:44:56.808
Yeah. Them.
John Datoy
00:44:56.864 - 00:45:05.748
So I don't know. I. I didn't notice it. I wouldn't necessarily be surprised because this is a pretty, you know, extensive film and there might be. But I didn't notice.
I didn't notice it.
Speaker B
00:45:05.804 - 00:45:08.436
I didn't know slip ups until you just, like, mentioned it.
Kyle
00:45:08.508 - 00:45:11.556
Go back and watch it. You can't Help it. It's going to be like a subconscious bias now.
John Datoy
00:45:11.628 - 00:45:29.460
For me, instead of Anya, it was the fact that I've watched two Ethan Hawk movies in a row where he's playing such polar opposite characters because he's such a. Before the devil knows you're dying. And then this. He's. He's a very like regal. And it's just. It was very interesting seeing both sides of that.
Kyle
00:45:29.580 - 00:45:31.028
I didn't recognize him at first.
John Datoy
00:45:31.084 - 00:45:31.364
Yeah.
Speaker B
00:45:31.412 - 00:45:40.002
When I watched it, I was trying to find him. I'm like. Because I didn't. I just. I never researched before I watched. I was like, maybe he's the kid.
Kyle
00:45:40.146 - 00:45:42.482
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They de. Aged him.
John Datoy
00:45:42.506 - 00:45:43.762
Boyhood in reverse.
Kyle
00:45:43.906 - 00:46:08.346
Yeah, yeah. I. But yeah, and again, I liked on you here. It's hard when I do so much research and two movies in a row.
I hear her just hating everything she's doing on the set because of where she is. But ultimately both directors said she's amazing. She's dedicated. She's also the person that keeps everybody on track.
She's also the hardest working actress today. I mean, she is. I feel like she's. Every six months she's coming out with a show and a movie at the same time. Yeah.
Speaker B
00:46:08.378 - 00:46:08.634
Yes.
Kyle
00:46:08.682 - 00:46:15.070
She's incredible. But I was just. I'm a little. I was just a little on you out. You know, she. It's more like Anya Taylor Misery.
John Datoy
00:46:18.530 - 00:46:20.090
But Anya Taylor sad.
Kyle
00:46:20.170 - 00:46:32.034
Yeah. What I will say is. First thing a question. How many amazing side roles is Willem Dafoe gonna rack up up?
He's one of the best actors of all time, but so many of his great roles are just side characters.
John Datoy
00:46:32.082 - 00:46:33.442
He's in his side quest era.
Kyle
00:46:33.506 - 00:46:34.530
Yeah. He's just so good.
John Datoy
00:46:34.570 - 00:46:37.090
He's just doing everything he wants to do and more like.
Speaker B
00:46:37.130 - 00:46:38.910
Well, how old is the guy now?
John Datoy
00:46:40.090 - 00:46:40.802
Late 60s.
Kyle
00:46:40.866 - 00:46:42.274
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
John Datoy
00:46:42.322 - 00:46:43.346
We have the technology.
Speaker B
00:46:43.498 - 00:46:44.370
Yeah, I guess I don't.
John Datoy
00:46:44.410 - 00:46:45.698
How old is Willem Dafoe?
Speaker B
00:46:45.794 - 00:46:47.123
He is 82.
John Datoy
00:46:47.288 - 00:46:48.034
69.
Kyle
00:46:48.122 - 00:46:49.362
He's 69.
John Datoy
00:46:49.466 - 00:46:49.842
Yeah.
Kyle
00:46:49.906 - 00:47:01.684
I wouldn't have guessed that. Loved him in Platoon. And of course Bjork. Great job. So. Yeah, we barely.
John Datoy
00:47:01.732 - 00:47:03.140
Let's get more Bjork in movies.
Kyle
00:47:03.220 - 00:47:20.030
Yeah. Bjork, we're so glad you're back. I love your music. Do some more movies. Yeah, just stay away from the Lars. Yeah, he's a bad dude.
I don't like him either. He just, he.
I go in to watch the Lars movie thinking it's exactly for me and then all of a sudden I'm just seeing genitals getting Smashed with a hammer. And I'm like, this isn't for me.
John Datoy
00:47:20.100 - 00:47:22.282
I mean, that's. You should never watch Antichrist.
Kyle
00:47:22.346 - 00:47:29.242
I know, but, like, again, the marketing, it looked interesting and I was like, oh, Defoe is in it. That looks interesting. It was my first Von Trier movie. That's probably.
John Datoy
00:47:29.306 - 00:47:30.378
That's interesting. Yeah.
Kyle
00:47:30.474 - 00:47:38.234
Now that I think about it. That's why I haven't seen Dogtown, because I worked backwards. I went melancholia, I went Antichrist.
And then I was never going to watch another one again.
John Datoy
00:47:38.322 - 00:47:43.642
Yeah, this one's very different for him. Like, it. Like I said, it's his most tame movie. I think you would enjoy it.
Kyle
00:47:43.666 - 00:47:44.042
Okay.
John Datoy
00:47:44.106 - 00:47:44.750
Yeah.
Kyle
00:47:45.250 - 00:47:47.914
All right, Lars, I'll give you a second chance, even though you're a dick.
John Datoy
00:47:47.962 - 00:47:50.764
The House that Jack Built is also very good.
Kyle
00:47:50.852 - 00:47:53.708
I hear he stacks up dead. Dead children in that movie.
John Datoy
00:47:53.804 - 00:47:55.692
I mean, lots of dead people.
Kyle
00:47:55.796 - 00:47:56.572
Yeah, but there's.
Speaker B
00:47:56.636 - 00:47:57.324
I don't know.
John Datoy
00:47:57.412 - 00:48:02.240
It's. He's a. He's a non discriminating. He's an equal opportunity killer.
Speaker B
00:48:02.820 - 00:48:05.788
So a sadist. All right, all right.
Kyle
00:48:05.924 - 00:48:11.160
Two to zero. The hay is on fire. I can see the Valhalla afterlife here.
Speaker B
00:48:12.740 - 00:48:13.644
All right.
Kyle
00:48:13.812 - 00:48:20.332
Writing. And. And beside Robert Eggers shown, who's an Icelandic writer and poet and author like that.
John Datoy
00:48:20.356 - 00:48:21.452
He just has one name.
Kyle
00:48:21.556 - 00:48:23.052
Me too. I want that for myself.
John Datoy
00:48:23.116 - 00:48:24.508
Yeah, just. I want to just be.
Speaker B
00:48:24.564 - 00:48:26.332
Where do you go? Where you'd be. Kyle.
Kyle
00:48:26.476 - 00:48:29.884
No, something. We got to find something from our Filipino heritage.
John Datoy
00:48:30.012 - 00:48:31.548
Oh, I thought you would just go by Kai.
Kyle
00:48:31.644 - 00:48:37.840
Kai. No. Listen, psa. I have met so many people with deviations of my name. Kyler.
John Datoy
00:48:38.340 - 00:48:39.036
Kyler.
Kyle
00:48:39.148 - 00:48:47.004
I had someone at a Starbucks spell my first name wrong. K I, L, E. And they asked me how to spell it and I said K Y, L, E. And they still spelled it. It's not hard.
Speaker B
00:48:47.092 - 00:48:49.896
They just do K A, L, E. Kale.
Kyle
00:48:50.008 - 00:48:52.540
Yeah. Dear God. Yeah.
John Datoy
00:48:53.120 - 00:49:05.336
Oh, man. I. You know, I do think this is his second best script. This is.
Again, there are certain technical reasons why I'm like, the Lighthouse is his best film.
Kyle
00:49:05.408 - 00:49:05.960
Absolutely.
John Datoy
00:49:06.040 - 00:49:47.846
But I. I just love this one. The dialogue.
The thing I've noticed, and I've only seen a couple of, like, the Scandinavian, like, films, the thing I have noticed is their. Their speech is kind of stilted in general, just. Just in their cadence. And it translates really interestingly over into English. And.
And I think everyone, whether or not they were Scandinavian, hit that cadence really well. And I think the writing is probably what carried that over because you look. You look at Shakespeare, everything's written in iambic pentameter.
And because it has a very specific cadence that Shakespeare wanted his actors to follow.
Kyle
00:49:47.918 - 00:49:48.970
Pentameter.
John Datoy
00:49:50.670 - 00:49:58.550
This. Not in the same way, but in a similar way hits that. That stride. So for me, yeah, it's definitely Berserker. Barely know her.
Speaker B
00:49:58.590 - 00:50:02.022
Yeah, yeah. Berserker. Barely know her. I just. It's kind of like that thing with.
John Datoy
00:50:02.046 - 00:50:03.350
Like, he just rushes through it.
Kyle
00:50:03.390 - 00:50:04.166
Yeah. Berserker.
Speaker B
00:50:04.198 - 00:50:12.140
Barely know her. Well, it's kind of like, you know how, like, some people in, like, comedy, like. Well, we know this would be like, that joke's a bad read.
Kyle
00:50:13.400 - 00:50:14.540
Wrong room.
Speaker B
00:50:15.400 - 00:50:21.168
But, like, I just felt. I don't know, like, I've seen this with the Lighthouse. To him, like, I felt like I was reading and watching.
John Datoy
00:50:21.264 - 00:50:21.584
Yeah.
Speaker B
00:50:21.632 - 00:50:23.872
Which. Which makes it more of an immersive experience.
Kyle
00:50:23.976 - 00:50:24.544
Yeah.
Speaker B
00:50:24.672 - 00:50:30.704
So, again, I mean, like, Nicole Kidman's just dialogue with just the reveal of his beginnings, which is so great.
Kyle
00:50:30.792 - 00:50:31.104
Yeah.
Speaker B
00:50:31.152 - 00:50:42.218
Because I was like. It didn't see. I could tell that these were things that, you know, were very carefully written. But, like, that's also how they just talked, too.
John Datoy
00:50:42.274 - 00:50:42.682
Yeah.
Speaker B
00:50:42.746 - 00:50:54.842
Like, I could believe it. And in the Lighthouse, you know, when he gives, like, that full dialogue, William Defoe's character, like, about the.
And that essentially got him nominated for the Oscar, I was like, wow, this is.
Kyle
00:50:54.946 - 00:50:55.514
Yeah.
Speaker B
00:50:55.642 - 00:51:01.456
And I think the camera work had a lot to do with that, too, actually, in the lighting. But I don't know, it was just.
John Datoy
00:51:01.578 - 00:51:24.228
You know, what the. The. The. Like, the dialogue in this.
And even though it's very different, it reminded me of the dialogue in the Coen Brothers True Grit, where when you watch that movie, everyone in the movie speaks the way that writing was back then. There are very few contractions. They. They. Instead of saying can't, they. They'll say cannot. Like, things like that.
Kyle
00:51:24.284 - 00:51:24.660
Yeah.
John Datoy
00:51:24.740 - 00:51:52.030
And. And if you don't have the proper direction, it can sound very strange.
But for whatever reason, like, when I watch that movie, when I watch True Grit, it sounds like I'm in an actual Western time period. And I think that's what happens with this is it's written in such a perfect way that you don't feel like people are reading theatrical lines.
You feel like they're just speaking into what's happening.
Speaker B
00:51:52.110 - 00:52:02.030
Yeah. Kind of like, what marriage. Do you want to go between the actor in the script or the language and the portrayal? Kind of like stuff like that.
Sorry, my headphones kind of going in that. So.
Kyle
00:52:02.330 - 00:52:45.884
Yeah, no, I go. I go, berserker. Barely Nowhere here. And the thing is, I know the writing is probably where it lost the non. Edgar's crew, you know, and.
And which I get. But the thing is, is that when it comes to.
Specifically to the epic genre, and I'm going to continue to call it an epic, because I do think this is an epic in the truest sense. I. It sent me looking for more. I wanted. Like, I was reading it, like you said, which. That's Mel Gibson's thing. Like, he.
He actually was the first person to say, yeah, apocalyptic. You're gonna be reading the whole time. But. And.
And same with Passion of the Christ, because, like, it's going to be immersive and people are going to love it. And that ended up being the case. Yeah. So. And that's the case here. And I. I like not a lot of movies.
Like, I will watch movies and love them, but not a lot of movies I watch and then say, I'm gonna go read a bunch of books.
John Datoy
00:52:45.932 - 00:52:46.396
Yeah.
Kyle
00:52:46.508 - 00:52:53.212
Like, you know, like, I'm gonna go like that. And I read a lot anyway, but not a lot of history. History. But now I'm like, I want to know everything.
John Datoy
00:52:53.316 - 00:52:53.596
Yeah.
Kyle
00:52:53.628 - 00:53:05.420
About Norse mythology and everything that happened here. And Edgar's made that happen for me. And also another shout out. We didn't mention him in the supporting cast, but Ingvar Sigurdson. Sorry.
He played the he witch.
Speaker B
00:53:05.500 - 00:53:06.300
Oh, okay.
Kyle
00:53:06.380 - 00:53:14.492
His dialogue. That was kind of the lighthouse moment where Defoe goes on that crazy rant. Yeah, yeah, that. Crazy in that language. You remember that?
Speaker B
00:53:14.516 - 00:53:15.980
When he's just like shanty, essentially.
Kyle
00:53:16.060 - 00:53:23.110
Yeah. He's out of his mind. That was kind of that moment in this movie for me. The he witch kind of stole the show for a minute there. I was like, holy.
Speaker B
00:53:23.270 - 00:53:23.702
Yeah.
Kyle
00:53:23.766 - 00:53:29.158
So I loved it. The writing here is like. And I just. I want more of this. I want more Eggers. I want more directors.
John Datoy
00:53:29.174 - 00:53:31.494
Like, the werewolf film is gonna be nuts, dude.
Kyle
00:53:31.542 - 00:53:34.310
I know. 13th century, right? Oh, my God. Did you hear about this?
Speaker B
00:53:34.350 - 00:53:35.254
I did hear about that.
John Datoy
00:53:35.342 - 00:53:39.622
And then he's also doing a labyrinth sequel. That'll be fascinating.
Kyle
00:53:39.766 - 00:53:40.470
Yeah.
Speaker B
00:53:40.630 - 00:53:41.094
Really?
John Datoy
00:53:41.182 - 00:53:41.926
Yeah.
Speaker B
00:53:42.118 - 00:53:43.206
Oh, yeah, yeah.
John Datoy
00:53:43.238 - 00:53:45.030
No, I'm very curious to see what.
Speaker B
00:53:45.070 - 00:53:47.130
I'm almost more interested in that. Yeah.
Kyle
00:53:47.660 - 00:53:52.436
Yeah. 3 to 0. We are singeing our genitals next to a volcano. It's going well.
Speaker B
00:53:52.508 - 00:53:53.440
It's getting hot.
Kyle
00:53:53.980 - 00:53:56.920
Getting really hot in here. Directing Robert Eggers.
John Datoy
00:53:57.340 - 00:53:59.060
I mean, fucking perfect.
Kyle
00:53:59.140 - 00:53:59.636
Yeah.
John Datoy
00:53:59.748 - 00:55:05.820
Again, there's a reason this one's my favorite. Even though I can point to so many of the things I think the lighting is better in, in and in the Lighthouse.
Here's the thing I've noticed with him is, is he does love very dramatic darks and lights. He doesn't even necessarily like, focus on the color scheme as much. He uses a lot of oranges and blues to go with firelight or nighttime.
But like, beyond that, he loves his very dark darks and his very light lights and he uses as much natural lighting as possible. And even though technically this could go in the what's in front of us category, it's very much you look at a shot that he is.
That he's done and you know, it's an Eggers shot. Same with a Christopher Nolan shot or same with a Tarantino shot. Like, you just know that he's the one who planned that out.
And it's like there's so many little meticulous things in this that it's just. It's so good. And yes, Berserker. Barely know her. He is a fucking master of a director and I cannot wait to see more from him.
Kyle
00:55:05.860 - 00:55:06.316
Love it.
Speaker B
00:55:06.388 - 00:55:10.620
Yeah. And I think that's why the. The he which stole the show is because of that lighting. Honestly too.
Kyle
00:55:10.660 - 00:55:10.924
Yeah.
Speaker B
00:55:10.972 - 00:55:16.428
Because the dialogue was strong, you know, but in the. But you know, it's just. I don't know, man.
Kyle
00:55:16.484 - 00:55:16.748
Just.
Speaker B
00:55:16.804 - 00:55:17.916
He's killing it right now.
Kyle
00:55:17.988 - 00:55:18.620
Yeah.
Speaker B
00:55:18.780 - 00:55:25.484
Yeah. I'm interested to see how many films he ends up producing. I'm also surprised he wasn't nominated for award for that.
Kyle
00:55:25.572 - 00:55:25.836
Yeah.
Speaker B
00:55:25.868 - 00:55:26.108
Because.
John Datoy
00:55:26.164 - 00:55:48.780
Oh, I'm not again. This is only his third film. Most new directors don't get nominated for big things until past their, like seventh or eighth film.
The fact that Peter Jackson got nominated for Return of the King, I mean, for all the Lord of the Rings is kind of an outlier, an anomaly to the system. Like, they don't really like giving new directors the big titles.
Speaker B
00:55:48.860 - 00:55:54.556
Even though the Lighthouse was nominated for. I mean, only like two, but two, not two.
John Datoy
00:55:54.628 - 00:55:55.932
Was he nominated for director?
Speaker B
00:55:56.036 - 00:56:01.340
No, he wasn't. Best lighting and best. Was it screenplay?
John Datoy
00:56:01.420 - 00:56:21.080
Probably, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the thing is they like, like Christopher Nolan was nominated for best editing and I think best Screenplay, Memento.
And then it wasn't nominated for anything else until the Dark Knight. And so that's just kind of how it goes with the Oscars.
They, they, they like gatekeeping until they see you're actually going to make a real career out of it.
Kyle
00:56:21.120 - 00:56:21.752
I hate the.
John Datoy
00:56:21.856 - 00:56:22.472
It's annoying.
Kyle
00:56:22.536 - 00:56:26.620
The Academy is the most corrupt organization this side of Tyson Chicken.
Speaker B
00:56:27.840 - 00:56:30.008
I agree. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
John Datoy
00:56:30.184 - 00:56:41.696
Yeah. So I'm not. I'm disappointed, but I'm not surprised that it wasn't nominated for more.
It also kind of really flew under the radar, like you said, because of when it came out, how it was marketed versus how the movie actually was flopped. Yeah.
Kyle
00:56:41.728 - 00:56:41.936
Yeah.
John Datoy
00:56:41.968 - 00:56:59.024
I feel like a lot of people in the Oscars weren't really paying attention to Eggers at the time. I think Nosferatu is going to change a lot for him. Like, I.
Even though he was only nominated for four this time, I think the movie itself is going to set him up as a actual auteur that they'll start paying attention to.
Speaker B
00:56:59.112 - 00:57:02.906
Yeah, Yeah, I agree with that. So. Yeah. Berserker.
Kyle
00:57:02.938 - 00:57:03.514
Berserker.
Speaker B
00:57:03.562 - 00:57:04.170
Barely know her.
Kyle
00:57:04.210 - 00:57:06.266
Barely know her. Oh, yeah.
Speaker B
00:57:06.378 - 00:57:07.514
Trying to say like a north.
Kyle
00:57:07.602 - 00:57:08.218
Oh, yeah.
John Datoy
00:57:08.314 - 00:57:09.834
Real creepy with that one.
Kyle
00:57:09.922 - 00:57:10.506
Yes.
John Datoy
00:57:10.618 - 00:57:14.778
We're a 2002 movie trailer. Oh, yeah. In a world.
Kyle
00:57:14.914 - 00:57:26.650
In a world. I also go berserker. Barely know her. I mean, I don't know what else you can say. I did want to say one more thing about the coloration of the.
Some of these scenes. You know, he. The scene with Bjork, he purposely pulled all the reds out.
John Datoy
00:57:26.690 - 00:57:27.092
Yeah.
Kyle
00:57:27.186 - 00:57:43.920
And it's so funny because, like, in a different context. That's one of the ugliest colors. It really is. It's like concrete. It's blue. But it made so much sense.
And you're so like in the way Skarsgard is not blinking and staring and her visual. You're just so pulled in, you're not even thinking about how the fact that this is the coldest shot.
John Datoy
00:57:44.000 - 00:57:44.256
Yeah.
Kyle
00:57:44.288 - 00:57:45.744
I've ever seen, color wise.
John Datoy
00:57:45.792 - 00:58:00.898
So that's also the thing is they're. They're literally in one of the coldest places in the world. Like, it is freezing when you get up to that. Those longitudes. So. Yeah. It's like you.
You want to some. Especially when everything else is lit by firelight when it's not.
Kyle
00:58:00.954 - 00:58:01.282
Yeah.
John Datoy
00:58:01.346 - 00:58:23.476
Just natural sunlight. You need to have some weird contrast. And you could do what George Miller did in Fury Road and have the.
The bright oranges and then the very deep blues when you hit night. But it makes more sense with his old school filmmaking style to pull it into more of that gray, silver kind of blue than like the deep blues of it.
Speaker B
00:58:23.548 - 00:58:24.500
Yeah, Yeah.
John Datoy
00:58:24.580 - 00:58:27.508
I like it. I think it's a very unique way to do it.
Kyle
00:58:27.644 - 00:58:28.100
Cool.
Speaker B
00:58:28.180 - 00:58:31.572
Yeah. I mean, the Fury Road approach for this movie would be pretty insane.
John Datoy
00:58:31.636 - 00:58:32.280
Yeah.
Kyle
00:58:33.100 - 00:58:35.156
Deep saturation of like. Yeah.
John Datoy
00:58:35.268 - 00:59:03.182
This is one of the few movies I Would actually love to see a black and white remaster of. Yeah, I think it would be very interesting to see him do something like that.
Fury Road was one of the few I've seen that worked really well because that's how he originally wanted to do it, was. He wanted it to be black and white. The studio was like, no, you. But when he did his black and chrome version, it. It.
You could tell that he always had black and white in mind when he shot that. And I think this would lend itself to that styling very well.
Kyle
00:59:03.286 - 00:59:03.662
Yeah.
Speaker B
00:59:03.726 - 00:59:05.486
Yeah. They found a compromise.
John Datoy
00:59:05.598 - 00:59:05.934
Yeah.
Speaker B
00:59:05.982 - 00:59:06.814
They shook hands.
John Datoy
00:59:06.862 - 00:59:07.230
Yeah.
Kyle
00:59:07.310 - 00:59:14.958
Yeah. It's always weird when they do let a black and white, like Sin City or something like that. When do they let that happen? It's so random. Yeah.
John Datoy
00:59:14.974 - 00:59:19.902
I mean, it just really depends, I think. And even then, like, Sin City, wasn't that based on a comic?
Kyle
00:59:19.966 - 00:59:20.750
Yeah, yeah.
John Datoy
00:59:20.830 - 00:59:24.334
So I think that's why. Where it's like red was the only color that came through the comic.
Speaker B
00:59:24.382 - 00:59:33.150
Well, doesn't violence have, like, a typical factor in that too? Like if. Because the kill bill wasn't one of the scenes in black and white. So it could avoid being NC17.
Kyle
00:59:33.270 - 00:59:34.814
I think so, yeah. I haven't watched him in a while.
John Datoy
00:59:34.822 - 00:59:35.870
But that would make sense.
Speaker B
00:59:35.950 - 00:59:40.032
Yeah. It was like something weird. But I think that's also one of the deciding Factors.
John Datoy
00:59:40.096 - 00:59:40.576
Yeah.
Kyle
00:59:40.688 - 00:59:51.312
Yeah. 4 to 0. Like an axe to the brain here. What's in. What is in front of us. And that is cinematography, production design, sound, costumes and editing.
John Datoy
00:59:51.376 - 01:00:02.608
I also think we should add stunt choreography to this stunt. Well, for this movie specifically, just because the fighting and. And the stunt choreography was so damn good.
Kyle
01:00:02.664 - 01:00:03.040
Yeah.
John Datoy
01:00:03.120 - 01:00:15.028
It felt visceral. It felt real. None of it felt overly rehearsed. Like, even though just as someone who knows what stunt fighting looks like, it didn't feel like that.
Kyle
01:00:15.084 - 01:00:15.720
Yeah.
John Datoy
01:00:16.060 - 01:00:35.108
Kind of like John Wick. It felt so well rehearsed that it just flowed naturally. So for me, it's a berserker, barely knower.
We've been talking about the lighting of this movie. It is absolutely incredible. The coloration, the way that. Just the way that he sets up the visuals. I think it's a very unique approach to him.
Movie like this.
Speaker B
01:00:35.164 - 01:00:42.372
Yeah, yeah. I mean, the fighting, it's not. It's like, sometimes you'll see a movie, you'll be like, I think they're doing Krav Maga. But it's like 1459.
John Datoy
01:00:42.476 - 01:00:42.900
Yeah.
Speaker B
01:00:42.980 - 01:01:00.520
And you're like. But like, these are just savages who are like, I'm gonna use Bare bone and grit. So. So that was. Yeah. Like we've talked about Bjork.
Cosmic design was so on point. And, like, the he witch, just the presentation, so great. Really, like the nudity.
Kyle
01:01:01.340 - 01:01:02.484
Really, like, the genitals.
John Datoy
01:01:02.532 - 01:01:03.476
Love the dicks.
Kyle
01:01:03.588 - 01:01:04.164
Love it.
John Datoy
01:01:04.252 - 01:01:12.460
But I mean, even, like, what you were saying about the Hel. Like, the fact that we don't really have many relics from that time period. So he was like, okay, what came before, what came after? How do we kind of.
Speaker B
01:01:12.500 - 01:01:12.860
Yeah.
John Datoy
01:01:12.940 - 01:01:27.196
Bridge that gap? And like, that is attention to detail that a lot of directors don't have today.
Today they would just be like, oh, here's what a Viking helmet looks like. And they'd put horns on it. And, like, you're gonna be this historically accurate. It has to look perfect.
Speaker B
01:01:27.308 - 01:01:31.132
Yeah. Well, even the prophecy scene, you know, like, they could have been very corny.
John Datoy
01:01:31.196 - 01:01:31.982
Oh, yeah.
Speaker B
01:01:32.116 - 01:01:42.298
But, like, the way that the bloodline is literally, like, the blood is so thin to, like, kind of symbolize our actual veins and how small they are. Like, that's pretty unique way of doing that. So.
Kyle
01:01:42.354 - 01:01:42.682
Yeah.
Speaker B
01:01:42.746 - 01:01:45.390
Yeah. So berserker.
Kyle
01:01:46.610 - 01:02:16.408
Oh, well done. I don't do accents. That was really well done. I was really great. I also go berserker. Barely know her. No one. The.
The details here are just so magnificent. I love, loved that I learned what a berserker, what that word meant. And then I rewatched it with the commentary. I was like, oh, they got bear.
They got the bare skins on. And like. Yeah, there's this. It's just so great. And I also love my favorite, like, one of my favorite epic kills was Skarsgard jumping off the.
At the very beginning. Jumping off that, like, roof.
Speaker B
01:02:16.504 - 01:02:16.776
Yeah.
Kyle
01:02:16.808 - 01:02:20.936
And he's, like, high up in the air and he, like, floats down and hits the guy off the horse. I was like, I love that.
John Datoy
01:02:21.008 - 01:02:21.256
Yeah.
Speaker B
01:02:21.288 - 01:02:21.832
Yeah.
John Datoy
01:02:21.976 - 01:02:26.758
And again, it didn't feel fantastical. It felt like an actual thing someone would have done.
Speaker B
01:02:26.814 - 01:02:27.814
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kyle
01:02:27.862 - 01:02:32.566
This is really Viking simulator is what this movie is. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B
01:02:32.758 - 01:02:35.270
They just make the Northman the game.
Kyle
01:02:35.390 - 01:02:37.110
Yeah, it is it really?
John Datoy
01:02:37.150 - 01:02:39.638
I would play that. Absolutely. I would play that.
Speaker B
01:02:39.694 - 01:02:40.710
Do it, Robert.
Kyle
01:02:40.870 - 01:02:44.438
Do it. I love the. I love the cinematography too.
Speaker B
01:02:44.494 - 01:02:44.710
Man.
Kyle
01:02:44.750 - 01:03:23.598
Iceland just breathes. Yeah. It's just so beautiful. And. And I love how empty. And I. I love just. I love Icelandic music. I'm a huge cigar roast fan. Like, I just.
I'm kind of slow, a little bit obsessed with just things that. Not that I know a lot about it, but just everything I encounter out of Iceland, like, I just love. Yeah. So it's really cool. Again, it sent me.
It sent me looking at more to learn more about this stuff. So everything's great. So Berserker. Barely know her. Yes. And like a mushroom fueled murder tirade. We are at 5 to 0.
We are at beyond the point of no return. But we got two bro categories here.
John Datoy
01:03:23.654 - 01:03:24.206
Here we go.
Kyle
01:03:24.278 - 01:03:28.910
To quote Mad Max, make it epic is the next category.
John Datoy
01:03:29.070 - 01:03:30.398
When did he say that?
Kyle
01:03:30.534 - 01:03:38.334
What is it in Furioso is like. But can you make it epic when he's challenging. When he's challenging her to kill him. Right.
Speaker B
01:03:38.422 - 01:03:39.518
Yeah, I've seen the clip.
John Datoy
01:03:39.614 - 01:03:40.238
I haven't seen.
Kyle
01:03:40.294 - 01:03:41.150
Let me make sure it's right.
Speaker B
01:03:41.190 - 01:03:44.090
It's like a gif. Actually, I think that's out there.
Kyle
01:03:44.470 - 01:03:46.494
Furiosa quote. I'm gonna have to edit this, so.
John Datoy
01:03:46.502 - 01:03:49.618
Wait, was. Was that that. Was that Chris Hemsworth?
Kyle
01:03:49.714 - 01:03:50.178
Yes.
John Datoy
01:03:50.274 - 01:03:51.186
Ah, okay.
Kyle
01:03:51.298 - 01:03:53.730
Do you have it in you to make it epic?
Speaker B
01:03:53.810 - 01:03:54.146
And he's.
Kyle
01:03:54.178 - 01:03:56.050
He's challenging. I just gave it. You haven't seen it yet?
John Datoy
01:03:56.090 - 01:03:56.338
No.
Kyle
01:03:56.394 - 01:03:58.386
Damn it, dude. I didn't mean to give that away.
John Datoy
01:03:58.458 - 01:04:00.546
Ah, whatever. It's a line.
Kyle
01:04:00.698 - 01:04:01.122
Yeah.
Speaker B
01:04:01.186 - 01:04:02.674
Just take one point out the board.
Kyle
01:04:02.762 - 01:04:10.962
Jesus. We just want a rabbit trail because this guy hasn't seen the movie. I'm just kidding. Yeah, yeah. But do you have it in you to make it epic?
John Datoy
01:04:11.026 - 01:04:13.928
I was watching more important movies like Nosferatu too.
Kyle
01:04:13.984 - 01:04:33.752
Yes, sir. Yeah, well, Matthew Blevins and I shat on Furiosa as two die hard Mad Max fans. Like Road Warrior is a top 50 movie for me.
So this is based on the fact that this is an epic. And. But also the. The way it was made did not jive with a lot of people that were expecting Gladiator.
John Datoy
01:04:33.816 - 01:04:34.104
Yeah.
Kyle
01:04:34.152 - 01:04:38.184
Braveheart. So ranking this or. Or viewing this as an epic, what do you give it?
John Datoy
01:04:38.272 - 01:05:54.464
I mean, definitely, I. This is the thing. Epic in like you're saying in the most traditional sense is a singular hero going on some sort of full fledged journey.
And you really do hit all seven points of the hero's journey in this story. You start with that conflict and call to action. And it really does end with the truest. The hero sacrifices himself for the greater good. Good.
It even along the way, like it. It a lot of ways resembles the. The Odyssey type of story where you do have these almost like allegoric parabolic moments of.
Of kind of taking you out of reality for a second with the visions and. And with talking to these witches and. And so no, I do think, like you said, it Hits that very traditional definition.
Unfortunately, Hollywood does what Hollywood does best and takes something great and morphs it into something formulaic to. To a fault. Even though there is a formula to the traditional kind of hero's journey.
It's gotten so watered down and so dumb down and like you keep saying over romanticized in movies such as Gladiator or Braveheart, which are two very good movies.
Kyle
01:05:54.512 - 01:05:54.976
Yeah.
John Datoy
01:05:55.088 - 01:06:12.568
But there's so little realism to those movies.
And so to watch an epic go back to its most traditional definition and really just follow the one character through this type of journey, I completely give it a berserker. Like it is absolutely fantastic.
Kyle
01:06:12.664 - 01:06:13.896
I love everything you said.
Speaker B
01:06:13.968 - 01:06:38.764
Aw yeah. Touching again on the Hollywood part too.
It's just like I feel like in some epics like what is the downfall is more of a slip up when really like it was the. In the Northman it felt like a really a callback to that call to action when he just has that prophecy and he's like.
He's more self determined than having a sign of weakness being his downfall.
John Datoy
01:06:38.812 - 01:06:39.132
Yeah.
Speaker B
01:06:39.196 - 01:06:49.292
Like in Gladiator, you know, he's just kind of like. I fought the ending the part like last third of the movie because it's like three and a half hours, right? The Gladiator. Yeah, it's like three hours.
Kyle
01:06:49.396 - 01:06:50.428
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B
01:06:50.444 - 01:07:19.500
I feel like the last third of it was just kind of like a slower burn than. Which is fine. I don't mind in. In that movie's particular case. But in this it was more like just appropriate for an epic. Right.
It really brought true sense. And maybe that's also speaking again to Robert Eggers youth in directing that he hasn't been so heavily influenced yet by whatever.
Don't get influence. Don't do drugs. Do you think they did drugs?
Kyle
01:07:19.580 - 01:07:28.930
They did already. Sorry. They literally. You were too late that four seconds. They. Yeah, yeah. They're in jail too. They're making drug dealers in jail now.
John Datoy
01:07:28.970 - 01:07:29.234
Yeah.
Speaker B
01:07:29.282 - 01:07:30.482
This is about to be 5 to.
Kyle
01:07:30.506 - 01:07:33.590
1 you say you're a clean comedian.
Speaker B
01:07:35.210 - 01:07:38.790
I would like to apologize to the good people of Nateland podcast.
John Datoy
01:07:41.370 - 01:07:43.186
But also please come on this podcast.
Speaker B
01:07:43.298 - 01:08:08.060
Yeah, yeah. No, it's berserker. Barely knower though.
Just because I think that there are so many different swings, differences between the youth of Robert Eggers directorial like filmography as well as like just what have we seen over the last 20 years in epics that makes it like not the perfect one because I don't know what that would even look like. But it's inching pretty close to it.
John Datoy
01:08:08.440 - 01:08:11.136
We'll find out after Nolan releases the Odyssey.
Speaker B
01:08:11.328 - 01:08:15.540
That is true, Robert. You can do drugs.
Kyle
01:08:16.600 - 01:08:19.127
All of them. Peyote, masculine. Whatever you got.
Speaker B
01:08:19.183 - 01:08:21.511
Yeah, yeah. Whatever. I just made you.
Kyle
01:08:21.615 - 01:08:23.767
Yeah. It ruins your teeth.
Speaker B
01:08:23.863 - 01:08:27.639
Yeah. But no other thing, so. Yeah.
Kyle
01:08:27.719 - 01:08:28.167
Cool.
Speaker B
01:08:28.263 - 01:08:28.823
Yeah.
Kyle
01:08:28.951 - 01:08:47.497
All right. Yeah. I also go berserker. Barely know her. I. I prefer this. I did like Gladiator, and I loved.
I loved Braveheart, and those are great stories, but there is a lot. I like what you said about Gladiator, that it kind of drags on towards the end. I love this.
And the thing is, is, like, this is a singular journey, and it's because this guy's got nothing else to fall back on.
John Datoy
01:08:47.553 - 01:08:47.833
Yeah.
Kyle
01:08:47.881 - 01:08:55.481
This revenge, it's not like he's like, well, if I don't do this, I'm gonna go ahead and start that real estate business that I. That I always thought I could do, you know?
John Datoy
01:08:55.505 - 01:09:01.881
I mean, it's like Inigo Montoya at the end of the Princess Bride, where he's just like, I've been in the revenge business for so long, I. I don't know what to do with myself.
Kyle
01:09:01.945 - 01:09:05.833
Yeah. Yeah. This. This guy is not starting, like, a Internet marketing firm.
John Datoy
01:09:05.881 - 01:09:06.153
Yeah.
Kyle
01:09:06.201 - 01:09:07.737
If this doesn't pan out, you know, this.
John Datoy
01:09:07.793 - 01:09:08.825
No Zuck dog.
Speaker B
01:09:08.937 - 01:09:10.873
Yeah, this. Yeah.
Kyle
01:09:11.001 - 01:09:15.949
Yeah. I. I get paid. I get paid 1200amonth to create hashtags for people.
John Datoy
01:09:17.129 - 01:09:17.825
Yeah.
Kyle
01:09:17.937 - 01:09:30.737
This is not that. I mean, this is the singular journey. I mean, and this is all he has. And. And there. And he doesn't have a reward. I think it's interesting, too. He.
There is no reward. Whether this happens or not for him. It's not like there's something on the other side.
John Datoy
01:09:30.793 - 01:09:31.025
Yeah.
Speaker B
01:09:31.057 - 01:09:31.265
Yeah.
Kyle
01:09:31.297 - 01:09:35.829
You know, this is his singular mission. And then it just so happens that he gets her pregnant with twins.
John Datoy
01:09:36.329 - 01:09:52.428
And I do think there is a reward, because I guess his father very specifically told him, your duty as a man and as a warrior is, if I die, you avenge me. And he literally has that moment where he's like, I will go avenge my father and then go meet him.
Speaker B
01:09:52.484 - 01:09:56.620
Yeah. He got the best of both his parents, regardless of how crappy that situation.
Kyle
01:09:56.700 - 01:09:57.196
Yeah.
Speaker B
01:09:57.308 - 01:10:02.572
Like, his father was, you know, just tunnel vision. He was able to, you know, be an adult.
Kyle
01:10:02.636 - 01:10:06.140
Yeah. But it's not like there's a brand new car at the end of it, you know?
John Datoy
01:10:06.180 - 01:10:08.172
I mean, it's a brand new Valhalla.
Kyle
01:10:08.236 - 01:10:09.632
Yeah. Just these dads.
Speaker B
01:10:09.756 - 01:10:10.248
Yeah.
Kyle
01:10:10.344 - 01:10:11.128
Yeah, yeah.
John Datoy
01:10:11.224 - 01:10:15.144
But again, like, you. You have that final shot of him literally going to Valhalla.
Kyle
01:10:15.192 - 01:10:16.216
Yeah. It's beautiful.
John Datoy
01:10:16.328 - 01:10:20.584
It's such a cool way to give him that payoff.
Kyle
01:10:20.632 - 01:10:21.000
Yeah.
John Datoy
01:10:21.080 - 01:10:34.280
Yeah. Which I don't feel like you get out of, especially Hamlet. Like Hamlet literally is just everybody dies. At least with this there is that payoff of.
Even if it's just in his brain and, you know, whatever you believe about the afterlife.
Speaker B
01:10:34.360 - 01:10:34.808
Yeah.
John Datoy
01:10:34.904 - 01:10:40.914
In his mind, he does get to go and be with his ancestors and prove that he was a warrior.
Kyle
01:10:40.962 - 01:10:41.282
Yeah.
John Datoy
01:10:41.346 - 01:10:46.354
At the same time, he's also leaving his offspring. Like he has his bloodline continuing.
Kyle
01:10:46.402 - 01:10:46.866
Yeah.
Speaker B
01:10:46.978 - 01:10:48.390
Look, a Valkyrie.
Kyle
01:10:50.330 - 01:11:09.092
Yeah. And. And that was really cool because I don't know about you guys, but, like, I don't. I'm not like an expert in any of these, like, mythologies.
And I'm. I'm trying to get there with this one because I'm so interested now. But like, it's not clear cut as like Christianity with heaven and hell.
Like a lot of the mythology you read around Valhalla or whatever that next step in life is, it's not necessarily like a paradise.
John Datoy
01:11:09.156 - 01:11:09.492
Yeah.
Kyle
01:11:09.556 - 01:11:14.980
You know, like, there's a lot of ambiguity around what it actually means. But like you said, it's like it's a warrior's reward.
John Datoy
01:11:15.060 - 01:11:15.364
Yeah.
Kyle
01:11:15.412 - 01:11:46.958
And so that makes it. That I did think.
And I didn't really realize until you said it, but that was a huge payoff, actually, because there's not a ton of mythological elements. Because even with the he witch stuff, you can always go back to saying, I think they're just on ergot right now.
You know, it's like, I don't like smoking drugs. Yeah. Even Bjork, it's just like she didn't notice the thing had fallen down and, you know. But no, it's, it's, it's cool.
That was a really cool payoff. So I, I did dig that. But yeah, I think these are epics in the truest sense. I want more of these. And again, there's a place for Gladiator. And it's.
That's a fun movie, but I love the realism. I love the history lesson here. So.
John Datoy
01:11:47.014 - 01:11:58.862
Yeah, it's so stripped down and simple too. Like, this is the most simple version of. And I hate to even call it an action movie, but it is technically an action drama.
It's still the most simple version. Version of that.
Speaker B
01:11:58.886 - 01:12:01.790
Yeah. And it was weirdly presented as almost like a thriller in a way too.
Kyle
01:12:01.830 - 01:12:02.126
Yeah.
Speaker B
01:12:02.158 - 01:12:03.214
Trailer. So.
Kyle
01:12:03.382 - 01:12:27.342
And that leads us to our last and final category at 6 to 0 here. I call this one the Wrong side of History. As everyone likes to say in the political room, you don't want to be on the wrong side of history.
Yeah, but this is just about, like. So considering how historically accurate. Accurate. Eggers tries to be, what he does, what. How do you feel about that? Do.
And we kind of just talked about it in the last one, but, you know, this is just focusing on the historical aspect.
John Datoy
01:12:27.486 - 01:13:15.538
I mean, it's his personal style, and that's something. I don't need it out of every movie, but it's something he's chosen to take on as his signature on a film.
And I love when a director just out the gate has their voice like that. And so I think it really lends itself well to what he wants to do.
I don't think there are many other directors who could pull it off the way that he does. Does. I think for most other people trying to make a film like this, it might get 70% of the way there, and people would be like, that's good enough.
But for him, I. I think it's just become such a part of his style that. That he can't avoid it now. Like, it's just that part of his brain can't turn it off.
So it's berserker. Barely knower. For me.
Kyle
01:13:15.594 - 01:13:16.114
Love it.
Speaker B
01:13:16.202 - 01:13:22.456
Yeah. It's berserk. Because, honestly, like, it's just like. I had no question. Legends.
John Datoy
01:13:22.488 - 01:13:22.888
Yeah.
Speaker B
01:13:22.984 - 01:13:32.600
It's just. And it's like one of those things I like. I don't know, like, when I watched. I'm trying to. What's another epic out there? I just can't think. I fit.
You guys got me on the gladiator.
John Datoy
01:13:32.680 - 01:13:33.176
Oh, yeah.
Speaker B
01:13:33.208 - 01:13:35.256
There's Braveheart. Braveheart's a Good. Yeah.
John Datoy
01:13:35.288 - 01:13:36.580
Braveheart. 300.
Speaker B
01:13:37.200 - 01:13:46.152
Yeah. Three. Like, when I watched 300, that's actually the best example. I was like. I had a lot of questions. I'm like. I was literally.
I was, like, 14 when that came out, I think.
Kyle
01:13:46.176 - 01:13:46.472
Yeah.
Speaker B
01:13:46.536 - 01:13:52.672
And I. I was such a nerd because we were studying that, you know, that mythology, and I was, like, making maps and everything.
John Datoy
01:13:52.776 - 01:13:53.200
Yeah.
Speaker B
01:13:53.280 - 01:14:00.032
And then I got a big fat D on my mythology test because I was like, someone lining up, so.
Kyle
01:14:00.136 - 01:14:00.720
How dare.
Speaker B
01:14:00.800 - 01:14:04.384
Yeah. But, yeah, I just. It felt real, man.
Kyle
01:14:04.472 - 01:14:05.888
Yeah. This role.
Speaker B
01:14:05.944 - 01:14:09.920
It's like a Coldplay concert. Felt real. Yes.
Kyle
01:14:10.000 - 01:14:14.980
Chris Martin's climbing on the. The pipes up there, crying to the scientist.
John Datoy
01:14:17.040 - 01:14:20.472
Yellow comes on. And we all just raise our lighters to the air.
Speaker B
01:14:20.576 - 01:14:29.220
Yeah. Yeah. And not the crazy, rich Asians version. That's the wrong side of history.
Kyle
01:14:30.240 - 01:15:03.728
The wrong side of history. Yeah. I berserker. Barely know her. I mean, not to. Not to dote too much on this movie, but I mean, it's. It's just firing in all the cylinders for me.
I'm more interested in a very realistic look with pinches of drama in there that I am, you know, being kind of romanticized and. And not being left wondering what the. What it really was like. So I love this visual representation and it made me super curious and I think.
I mean, I just.
The thing that this is what hooks me to Eggers continually and this is what I think draws loyalty from his fan base, is that when you watch the Witch of the Lighthouse, you're like, my God, like the amount of detail.
Speaker B
01:15:03.864 - 01:15:04.176
Yeah.
Kyle
01:15:04.208 - 01:15:16.206
I mean, dude, on this commentary, he's just. I don't know if he has notes in front of him, but he's literally just citing poets from random centuries. And he's like.
He's like, well, the poet this and that said this and this is. He's.
John Datoy
01:15:16.318 - 01:15:17.870
That's all from his brain. Yeah. No, no.
Speaker B
01:15:17.910 - 01:15:18.446
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Kyle
01:15:18.478 - 01:15:21.182
This dude doesn't just study this stuff. It's like he knows.
John Datoy
01:15:21.246 - 01:15:21.534
Yeah.
Kyle
01:15:21.582 - 01:15:26.014
And. And he pulled in a. A professional to help him co. Write it to make sure.
John Datoy
01:15:26.102 - 01:15:26.366
Yeah.
Kyle
01:15:26.398 - 01:15:29.582
That he was paying homage to the history and he has Bjork do it.
Speaker B
01:15:29.606 - 01:15:29.854
Yeah.
Kyle
01:15:29.902 - 01:15:46.620
Yeah. And so I love it. I think. I think this is. You know, it's so.
Considering the day and age of film we're in, this is ultimately just incredibly refreshing for me. So 770-we are in Valhalla. We have. We have accomplished the warrior or the. The hero's journey here.
John Datoy
01:15:46.660 - 01:15:46.972
Yeah.
Speaker B
01:15:47.036 - 01:15:47.324
Yeah.
Kyle
01:15:47.372 - 01:15:54.540
What a great movie. I can't wait to do. I want to do more Eggers movies. I want to do the Lighthouse just because I want to be in the philosophical discussion.
John Datoy
01:15:54.620 - 01:15:54.924
Yeah.
Kyle
01:15:54.972 - 01:15:58.716
I've watched it three times and each time I think it means something completely different.
John Datoy
01:15:58.788 - 01:15:59.036
Yeah.
Speaker B
01:15:59.068 - 01:15:59.820
Yep, yep.
Kyle
01:15:59.900 - 01:16:00.252
Yeah.
Speaker B
01:16:00.316 - 01:16:04.620
The demise of man, demise of loneliness. Just like, whoa.
Kyle
01:16:04.780 - 01:16:10.280
Oh, my God. So before we sign off though, what shows you got coming? We have listeners all over the place.
Speaker B
01:16:10.660 - 01:16:18.956
Yeah. So next month I will be. I'll be at Zany's a few times. I'm opening for Stephen Bargetzi, Nate Bargettzi's dad, tonight.
Kyle
01:16:19.068 - 01:16:19.500
Cool.
Speaker B
01:16:19.580 - 01:16:29.260
Cool. I know that comes out later, but he doesn't show there like every month. Yeah. Trying to get on the show of Dr. Ben.
He's an Asian guy, so I think I have an in.
John Datoy
01:16:29.380 - 01:16:30.716
Get some neck in there.
Kyle
01:16:30.788 - 01:16:31.084
Yeah.
Speaker B
01:16:31.132 - 01:16:36.028
And I'm also doing Stone cold sober at Third Coast Comedy Club. I think that's the 21st.
Kyle
01:16:36.084 - 01:16:37.036
Which one are you?
Speaker B
01:16:37.188 - 01:16:44.076
I am going to be the drinking one this time. Seth was actually on the last one I did. No, it was a very horrible time.
John Datoy
01:16:44.148 - 01:16:49.948
That one went poor. Very poorly on John's part. I take blame for some of that.
Speaker B
01:16:50.004 - 01:17:39.380
But I don't think you should. I think that I was just so nice. I'm not a like a weed guy at all, really. And I was like, this will be fun.
So I went to one of the Delta 9 stores and I bought like the nerd gummy clusters. They put like 600 milligrams of whatever in there. And I'm like, you know what shows in 45 minutes? I gotta. I gotta punch this to the gas.
So I ate the whole thing. And then. And then I get there. I'm like, seth, I don't feel anything. He's like. And he's so kind. He's like, you gotta wait just to little bit longer.
He's like, but I did bring this blunt, if you want it. And so I did that. And then, like, I get on stage and I could already feel it as I'm about to go on stage.
So I just like, wrote my jokes on a note card. And I wrote on the back of the note card in case things go bad.
John Datoy
01:17:40.640 - 01:17:41.576
And they went bad.
Speaker B
01:17:41.648 - 01:17:48.864
They went bad. I was like, you get eight minute sets. I have like a minute left. I look at the clock and I'm like, I have two minutes left.
John Datoy
01:17:48.912 - 01:17:49.504
Left.
Speaker B
01:17:49.672 - 01:17:56.640
I bought the recording from them and I was just like, I get the card out and I do seven jokes that are like three minutes long.
Kyle
01:17:56.760 - 01:17:57.152
Yeah.
Speaker B
01:17:57.216 - 01:18:05.984
And then I'm like, I look at the clock, I'm like, I have two minutes left. But yeah, it's. And then I ran away from everybody, freaked my wife out.
Kyle
01:18:06.072 - 01:18:09.104
And buried yourself? Yeah.
Speaker B
01:18:09.232 - 01:18:10.064
Ended up in.
John Datoy
01:18:10.152 - 01:18:13.888
I got so many texts during the night from him. It was great.
Kyle
01:18:14.024 - 01:18:15.140
That's amazing.
John Datoy
01:18:15.650 - 01:18:21.322
And like, it's like, did I not just have a conversation with you? I'm like, dude, you've been home for two hours.
Speaker B
01:18:21.506 - 01:18:22.010
Yeah.
Kyle
01:18:22.090 - 01:18:25.674
Marianne has asked me to be on the show a few times. I just haven't really wanted.
John Datoy
01:18:25.722 - 01:18:26.298
It's a fun one.
Speaker B
01:18:26.354 - 01:18:27.018
It's a fun one.
Kyle
01:18:27.074 - 01:18:27.354
Yeah.
Speaker B
01:18:27.402 - 01:18:33.514
And the only one I'm doing, the reason I'm doing the drinking one is like, I'm also trying to calm that down. So I'm like, it'll be my last hurrah.
Kyle
01:18:33.642 - 01:18:36.026
Yeah. I don't drink anymore. Do I have to drink to be on the show.
Speaker B
01:18:36.098 - 01:18:37.018
No, you can be a sober one.
Kyle
01:18:37.074 - 01:18:39.018
Okay. Yeah, I'm gonna have to be the sober one.
Speaker B
01:18:39.074 - 01:18:46.712
Yeah. Yeah. A lot of people who are sober do that show. Oh, cool. Yeah, it's really great. But, yeah, I'm gonna be a drinking one, and I don't know.
It'll be fun.
Kyle
01:18:46.816 - 01:18:47.128
Fun.
Speaker B
01:18:47.184 - 01:18:47.944
Less scary.
Kyle
01:18:48.072 - 01:18:57.048
So come out and see our boy John. He's incredible. He's one of the best comics we got, and he's out there destroying the world like a Viking. Like a Filipino Viking.
Speaker B
01:18:57.144 - 01:18:57.464
Yes.
Kyle
01:18:57.512 - 01:19:00.152
Thank y'all for tuning in. Love, y'all. I'm Kyle.
John Datoy
01:19:00.216 - 01:19:00.792
I'm Seth.
Speaker B
01:19:00.856 - 01:19:07.020
And I'm John. Detoy, Movie Wars.
John Datoy
01:19:07.370 - 01:19:07.610
It.